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WTXCottonguy
Posted 4/20/2011 22:29 (#1735851)
Subject: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


Lorenzo, tx
Its an 04 chevy 2500 hd. It is giving constant trouble with transfer cases. Is there a way we could just take the transfer case out and block off the hole? There has to be a way to do this. TIA
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tater1086
Posted 4/20/2011 22:45 (#1735901 - in reply to #1735851)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


Snipesville, GA
I would assume you could take off transfer case and get a longer driveshaft. You would need a new cone/tailshaft housing to mount where the transfer case was bolted to though. What about removing front driveshaft and putting it in 2 or 4 wd high and going that route. You might be able the pull a fuse to disconnect the power supply. Just my thoughts!!!
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Badger
Posted 4/20/2011 22:47 (#1735907 - in reply to #1735901)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


Huntley Montana
Are you running the SAME size tires on both ends? That will make a differance
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jerb
Posted 4/20/2011 23:12 (#1735978 - in reply to #1735907)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


yes it can be done but chances are the splined output shaft on the tranny will be shorter than that of a 2 wheel drive, so besides finding a tail shaft housing, you will need the tail shaft as well, and installing it will require complete disassembly of the transmission, might be better off finding a 2wd transmission, or diagnosing the problems with the transfer case!!
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farmerboy50
Posted 4/20/2011 23:19 (#1735996 - in reply to #1735851)
Subject: RE: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


West Texas
Take the drive shaft off going to the front axle.
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WTXCottonguy
Posted 4/20/2011 23:33 (#1736035 - in reply to #1735851)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


Lorenzo, tx
I meant leave the 4x4 transmission in take the transfer case off and just block off the hole where the transfer case connects. I don't see much that you would have to change much. I guess I'm asking if the transmission can operate without the transfer case?
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crow
Posted 4/20/2011 23:39 (#1736051 - in reply to #1735851)
Subject: RE: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


East central Alberta
If I remember correctly, you can remove the back half of the transfer case & remove the chain and put it back together. That should work but its been a while since I have been under a chev.
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1chevy02
Posted 4/21/2011 00:15 (#1736114 - in reply to #1735851)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?



The 04 has the vehicle speed sensor in the transfer case. It will put the trans in limp mode if you remove it. You would need a 2wd tailhousing on the trans. What transfer case does it have? What are the problems you are having with it? There are a few things you can update on those tramsfer cases to ,make them a lot better more reliable.
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Philko
Posted 4/21/2011 00:17 (#1736118 - in reply to #1736051)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


you can't remove the transfer case entirely, unless you get a 2wd transmission. the output shaft on a 4wd transmission is made for the transfer case. You might be able to remove the chain and lock up the rear output shaft somehow so it can't go to neutral. You could remove the front drive and plug the hole, wouldn't save much. What is happening to the transfer case? I've never had one go out. My newest is a 2000 with 130k.
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WTXCottonguy
Posted 4/21/2011 00:41 (#1736150 - in reply to #1736114)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


Lorenzo, tx
There is a big housing in between the transmission and the transfer case, it cracks (dont know why) leaks all the oil out and ruins the transmission. Its had 3 transmissions in about 5000 miles. Were to the point gm doesn't want to warranty there work and we don't want to fix it again. Several people around here have had trouble with this. Very disappointing because the pickup only has 105k miles on it. Right now the transfer case is in pieces literally the outer housing is broke. So the transmission isn't far behind it.
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plowboy
Posted 4/21/2011 01:46 (#1736193 - in reply to #1736150)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?



Brazilton KS

We had a truck that kept breaking transmissions once.  It quit after we welded the crack in the frame.

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Spudland_Dave
Posted 4/21/2011 07:34 (#1736304 - in reply to #1736150)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


Maine
If you've already gone thru 3 tranny's, I'd be driving it until I'm ready for the 4th and make the 4th tranny a 2wd unit...OR sell the working one you got while it works and swap em out BEFORE it breaks.
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Tommy
Posted 4/21/2011 07:51 (#1736331 - in reply to #1735851)
Subject: RE: difference in value


Iowa
I am looking for a 2wd right now. They are at least $4,000 cheaper than a 4wd. Get it working and take it to auction, then buy a 2wd. Instead of SPENDING money , you will MAKE money.

For instance, I found 3 different 2007 Chevy 2500HD extended cab 2wd with under 50,000 miles for around $14,000-- it takes close to $20,000 for a similar 4X4.
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Cliff SEIA
Posted 4/21/2011 08:39 (#1736421 - in reply to #1736331)
Subject: RE: difference in value


And the true 2wd should require less maintance in the front end that the 4wd without a transfer case would still probably need.  The biggest advantage to a true 2wd other than the purchase price would be the fuel economy should be quite a bit better. 

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1066ih
Posted 4/21/2011 08:44 (#1736436 - in reply to #1736331)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


South eastern South Dakota
I think plowboy hit the nail on the head, there is most likely some flexing going on somewhere. Might be tough to find.
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jerb
Posted 4/21/2011 09:14 (#1736506 - in reply to #1736436)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


i think it would take some pretty severe flexing to break the housing, the crossmember mount should absorb quite a bit of that, but not a bad idea to check around the crossmember mounts for cracks,WTXCottonguy....is there any vibration in the driveline??? have you checked front driveshaft for wear in joints?
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Tommy
Posted 4/21/2011 09:24 (#1736526 - in reply to #1736421)
Subject: RE: difference in value


Iowa
Cliff SEIA - 4/21/2011 08:39

And the true 2wd should require less maintance in the front end that the 4wd without a transfer case would still probably need.  The biggest advantage to a true 2wd other than the purchase price would be the fuel economy should be quite a bit better. 



I just looked at a 2007 2500HD 2wd with the 6.0 gas and the 3.73 rear end with 35,000 miles. Guy ordered it new and had EVERY tank of gas through it in a log book. 17.1 mpg average--Impressive!! That's twice what my 3500 hd 4wd with dump beds get!!!

$14,000. Think I will go buy it today if he hasn't sold it already
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WTXCottonguy
Posted 4/21/2011 09:42 (#1736570 - in reply to #1736506)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


Lorenzo, tx
There is some vibration after it breaks. The 4x4 lever rattles something awful. That's how we know its broke again. But I dont know if they ever checked the front u-joints that would be about right do 3 transmissions and have a u-joint out
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 4/21/2011 11:31 (#1736733 - in reply to #1735851)
Subject: RE: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


Central ND
I sure hate being stuck on NOTHING but green grass in a front yard or feild...... Id rethink my idea, but its your choice.. Maybe you need a different model/ brand of truck?Gosh.......... Id HATE to ONLY have 2 w drive available anymore. Id cuss a pickup without 4wd here now day.Why is there so many failures in the transfer case? I guess the exception would be if you only drive the pickup for a car anyway.But then why not let the truck sit and drive a car that gets some milage?

Edited by School Of Hard Knock 4/21/2011 11:33
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conservation cop
Posted 4/21/2011 11:33 (#1736741 - in reply to #1735851)
Subject: Sure it can! AND very easy!!!



Gettysburg, PA

Just cut it in half with a table saw!  You've got two 2x4's!!! 

Sorry, that was what I was thinking when I read your subject line:)

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WTXCottonguy
Posted 4/21/2011 12:16 (#1736805 - in reply to #1736733)
Subject: RE: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


Lorenzo, tx
It was a farm work pickup, but has since been replaced. We thought we could use it to pull the seed trailer as a 2x4 would handle that but we decided this morning to trade it off and just get another one as another pickup would really be nice.
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801486
Posted 4/21/2011 17:06 (#1737142 - in reply to #1735851)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


west central Iowa
Some of the 99 thru 07 chevys had bad transfer case problems if they were worked at all. My 2000 model 2500 transfer case went out shortly after I bought it. The extended warranty paid to put in a new gm case, It was going out after 40,000 miles when I sold the pickup on an auction. The extended warranty would only pay for an item once and the gm warranty was only 24000 miles. A friend of mine that works at a gm dealership says some company trucks are on their 5th t-case by the time they have 200,000 on them.
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WTXCottonguy
Posted 4/21/2011 17:54 (#1737177 - in reply to #1737142)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


Lorenzo, tx
I believe we have the same problem.
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1066ih
Posted 4/21/2011 19:53 (#1737355 - in reply to #1737177)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


South eastern South Dakota
I never would have guessed the quality could be that bad, wow!!
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 4/30/2011 08:29 (#1753510 - in reply to #1737142)
Subject: Re: Can a 4x4 be made a 2x4?


Central ND
801486 - 4/21/2011 16:06

Some of the 99 thru 07 chevys had bad transfer case problems if they were worked at all. My 2000 model 2500 transfer case went out shortly after I bought it. The extended warranty paid to put in a new gm case, It was going out after 40,000 miles when I sold the pickup on an auction. The extended warranty would only pay for an item once and the gm warranty was only 24000 miles. A friend of mine that works at a gm dealership says some company trucks are on their 5th t-case by the time they have 200,000 on them.

Wow! 5th? Not thats bad.....
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