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rjvhay |
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Davis Creek, CA | I was wondering how farmers with a bale band-it or bale baron pick up the bundles. Can they be stacked with a machine like a big bale or will the bundles fall apart? I was wondering if a pro-ag stacker would work. THanks, RJV | ||
mcupps |
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Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit! | Probably. Everyone I know that is using one is picking the bundles up individually in the field. A double spikes work fine to move them around. Or anything that will pick up a square bale. How many do you plan on sending through one in order to need a retriever/roadsider picking them up out of the field?? If you have that many bundles,, that required way too many hours running a small square baler. :) | ||
Big Ben |
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Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA | Some markets require a lot of small squares. Neighbor here still runs a hay crew with 8 JD 348 balers. 6-8 balers used to be the norm, now most guys have 2-4 big balers, but someone has to feed the small square markets. I think most big bale stackers that are designed to squeeze the bales to pick them up would work. I don't know how the banders work, but if there is a side with no strings or straps that would open up more possibilities. | ||
twraska |
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Wallis, TX | Here we lay the bundle on its side and use a grapple to pick it up. 3 high on a goosneck and you got 420 bales (or should I say high quality horse hay bales) real quick. This is behind a Bale Baron, strings no straps. | ||
rjvhay |
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Davis Creek, CA | I am looking at 15-20000. I think that would take too long one bundle at a time. 15000/21=715 bundles. | ||
mcupps |
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Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit! | I understand the reasoning and the demand perfectly. Thats just a lot of cha-ch cha-ch cha-ch, We used to run 3 small inline balers. Now we run a big baler and just rebale them into small bales as needed. Works great with everything but alfalfa. But then again. The alfalfa markets usually is just as high by the ton as it is in quality small bales. Unless you have some sort of amazing marketing channels. Ive just about given up on alfalfa. A guy has great year and bales great alfalfa and everyone brags on him for 15 minutes. And then he does everthing the same the next year. and stays up at all hours of the night baling hay and bla bla. And does more worrying about rain and moisture and humidity. And then everyone is mad that he doesn't have a supply of good alfalfa like he did last year. And then when he sells them the stuff that had to be day baled, Or has some surface mold, they come back complaining, even though he explained it was poorer quality and it was priced accordingly. And the dairy guys that buy a lot of hay are no different that the horse and show people that buy 5 dollars worth. They all want a bargin! Or they want to complain. Usually both. On the flip side you can put different grass hay or straw in a small bale and sell it for 200 dollars a ton and never recieve anything but praise for your product. I know things are different out west where it doesn't rain and high humidity is 8 percent. Ill still raise alfalfa, but only for one customer. MYSELF | ||
mcupps |
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Downtown Shell Knob MO Come Visit! | We used to tie 20000 bales with a 1049 newholland. Just grab 12 balls of twine and throw them under the deck, then tie the to the top bar. then after you have loaded 3 tiers, simply pull the twine from the top bar down across the bales and turn 3 tiers into 3 bundles of 10 bales. Turns one bale wagon load into 9 bundles. Those bundles only had 19 bales in them though because a 1049/69 only stacks 6 high. I wouldn't mind picking up 715 bundles with my versatile bidi one bit. I probably wouldn't want to do it all one day though. :) We used to tie 20000 bales with a 1049 newholland. Just grab 12 balls of twine and throw them under the deck, then tie the twine to the top bar. then after you have loaded 3 tiers, simply pull the twine from the top bar down across the bales and turn 3 tiers into 3 bundles of 10 bales. Turns one bale wagon load into 9 bundles. It takes alot less time than you would think and you only have to get out of the bale wagon 3 times. I usually had to get out of the bale wagon 3 times before that when we were trying to make tie-layers because the spikes wouldn't catch the bale correctly or something would always turn just a little bit wrong. Those bundles only had 18 bales in them though because a 1049/69 only stacks 6 high. But that made them fit in a van trailer very nicely! A 7 bale long bundle is a tight fit in a 96 wide trailer. I wouldn't mind picking up 715 bundles with my versatile bidi one bit. I probably wouldn't want to do it in one day though. :) Im not trying to act all big and bad, (Im more of small-time and bad in the wrong sense of the word) Hopefully your not taking it that way. Im just being curious. Are you in the horse hay, straw, or overseas markets? Do yo already have the pro ag stacker. I guess that makes a huge difference. If I already had it, I would use the heck out of it!. | ||
proacres |
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Lancing, TN | We ran 2 bale bandits for several years. Just use regular pallet forks on front and rear of tractor and stack on flatbeds or push 2 high into van trailers. The package is a wonderful package. The machine to make the package broke down every day. I wouldn't mind loading 200-300 bundles/day. Have loaded out of the barn 210 bundles/day many times. | ||
JLynn |
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NW VA | We hired a guy with a bale baron last spring. We pushed the bundles over and lifted with a pallet fork. http://www.youtube.com/fuelfarmer#p/u/7/RSR8iHrr3TU | ||
rjvhay |
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Davis Creek, CA | Straw is what I am doing. I have a pro ag stacker already. I would think that I could pick them up and stack the bundles 4 high like 4x4 bales. If I can figure out a fast handling way I will do more than 15000. I also have a small window to work in. I have been making block stacks and loading with a squeeze on a truck, but I am trying to figure out a better way to load vans. Plus stacking 2 tie with a harrowbed is a pain and too slow. I also have to stack 3 string bales of straw at the same time. I can get so much more done stacking 3 string bales with a block stacker than stacking 2 tie. This could also work into other avenues with horse hay. Just wondering if I can find a better way. Thanks RJV | ||
hay_rules |
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lucknow,ontario | bale bandit man allll the way we have 2 do about 100,000 bales a year between the two looksw mint all u need is 3 long spears the long thin red one i think they r about 54 inches they r long mount on a bucket abuot 4 feet wide five i dont know exactly works out to a bale and skip one then the next one so you drive up push it over on its side then spear it then drive away works mint can pick ones up with one broken band as long as the good one is on the top you will not be dissapointed people say they r always broke down and whatever they just dont know how to fix stuff beacuse a hundred thousand bales betweeen 2 in 2 months dont lie we have had them since 01 i guess pallet forks work too but remember dirt holds moisture and moisture makes hay go very very bad and they dont slide off to nice been there and done that spears work you can go two high and carry no problem into a truck we actually go to a semi in the feid then home the thing i dont like about a bale barron is this you bale a bale of hay and it nice and tight then you come back to this bale of hay and it is so lose the strings come off well times that by 21 you have 10%shrink on theat hole package so you have one knoter not tieing so your down to 3 strings then it shrinks lol been there and done that too we had a barron hear for the summer it left and another bandit showed up the straps r alittle more money but they r applied tighter and r very very strong and by the time the hay shrinks they r still snug for each his own but we will never be getting rid of yours and for others reading this email me with your problems and see if i can help they r VERY predictable when you have run them this long they dont have too many different tricks lol i hope this helps | ||
deersniper |
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We are on our 3rd year with a Bale Baron. We baled 45,000 bales last year. We use the grapples that they sell. One grapple on a 75XT skidsteer and another on a 7120 with a loader. Better than handling by hand. The hay has to be dryer to keep though. -dan | |||
slowzuki |
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New Brunswick, Canada | I don't follow your math or you're using 16x18 bales or something? Nevermind, got it. mcupps - 4/6/2011 02:11 We used to tie 20000 bales with a 1049 newholland. Just grab 12 balls of twine and throw them under the deck, then tie the twine to the top bar. then after you have loaded 3 tiers, simply pull the twine from the top bar down across the bales and turn 3 tiers into 3 bundles of 10 bales. Turns one bale wagon load into 9 bundles. It takes alot less time than you would think and you only have to get out of the bale wagon 3 times. I usually had to get out of the bale wagon 3 times before that when we were trying to make tie-layers because the spikes wouldn't catch the bale correctly or something would always turn just a little bit wrong. Those bundles only had 18 bales in them though because a 1049/69 only stacks 6 high. But that made them fit in a van trailer very nicely! A 7 bale long bundle is a tight fit in a 96 wide trailer. I wouldn't mind picking up 715 bundles with my versatile bidi one bit. I probably wouldn't want to do it in one day though. :) Im not trying to act all big and bad, (Im more of small-time and bad in the wrong sense of the word) Hopefully your not taking it that way. Im just being curious. Are you in the horse hay, straw, or overseas markets? Do yo already have the pro ag stacker. I guess that makes a huge difference. If I already had it, I would use the heck out of it!. Edited by slowzuki 9/20/2012 20:55 | ||
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