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South Africa | Does anyone have experiance with both of these? How do they compare against each other?
Have always run Axial Flows but the CR is priced very well and according to sales people the rock trap on the CR is brilliant.
Will be doing mostly corn and soybeans, but also a little wheat. The area we will be using it have fairly steep slopes.
Would apreciate your thoughts. |
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SW Ontario | If you bale your straw the Yellow one will do a nicer job, (so we've been told by a guy who's ran both machines). You can spread chaff and windrow same time with NH. Not sure if you can with case. We have had case all our life and have just bought a Cr 9060. Demo last fall and was really impressed. |
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Finney county, kansas | they are the exact same machine except for the rotors made in the same factory on the same line |
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Grand Island, Nebraska | There is quite a bit of difference between the red and the yellow: lots of belts, pulleys, chains, and sprockets on the yellow ones. Red ones use cvt drives for the rotor, feeder, and header drives. Cleaning fan, straw chopper, return system, and feeders are also different. The self level cleaning system is the same as is the chassis. |
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SW Ontario | Case and NH share the same cleaning shoe technology. NH had the self leveling shoe back in the tx days and stuck with it.Case got it after NH bought them. The cabs are similar size. Joysticks are completely different. Up is up in NH, NH are mechanical driven rotors where case is hyd drive. NH has a chopper where as case has an internal beater/chopper. CR's are smoother running machines in the crop and under load. Powertrain is the same (eng, trans, etc) . |  | |
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Southeastern Alberta | NH will clean better in wheat. Had a Case IH salesman tell me that from a demo day where they rented all the other colors and ran red against them.
The rock systems are different, but the CRs will have an optional trap for 2012, so if that is a sticking point for some, it will not be anymore. |
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NW Washington | It is easier to get a good even distribution grain and chaff on the shoe with the twin rotors than with a single rotor. |
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SW IA | Local dealer let us demo a CR 9060 two falls ago. I have never been in a 8120, but the CR was nice as people have posted here. I was impressed with the rock trap on it, it set off once while I was running it just due to a dirt clod. After the first time it goes off, you'll figure out how to reset it, and won't have to get out of the cab if you do it right. We run a 2588 and the rock traps are not even comparable, as I said I was impressed with it. |
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WC MN | I don't know from experience, but what you said there JohnW hits close to home......
We run one of the last 8010's made.....After looking at the farm show this february at both the red and yellow...... and how the returns on the yellow feed to BOTH sides of the shoe..... I cannot for the life of me figure out how a red machine can beat the twin yeller one.....
All the returns on the red get dumped on the left side (rethreshed). In 80% of conditions, this isn't a big deal, but in high moisture corn..... I cannot help but feel it is a VERY BIG DEAL!!!! |
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About 45° North | Newguy - 3/10/2011 21:11
I don't know from experience, but what you said there JohnW hits close to home......
We run one of the last 8010's made.....After looking at the farm show this february at both the red and yellow...... and how the returns on the yellow feed to BOTH sides of the shoe..... I cannot for the life of me figure out how a red machine can beat the twin yeller one.....
All the returns on the red get dumped on the left side (rethreshed). In 80% of conditions, this isn't a big deal, but in high moisture corn..... I cannot help but feel it is a VERY BIG DEAL!!!!
I think you're just biased to the color YELLOW ;-}
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WC MN | You are correct, with good reason!
I wouldn't say the 8010 is disappointing, but I did have higher expectations for it...... Some things just do not make logical sense in the machine.
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| Good impressions here. Yes, overall the yellow is the better machine - it should be because the 8010 was born from it with some CaseIH-based concepts thrown in (tailings processor, AFX rotor, etc). CVT drive was largely NH in origin and originally the yellow was going to have that but politics intervened. Probably turned out okay, overall the CR has a good drive system. Things I like better on the CR: external chopper design, better tailings system, twin rotor processing up top most times has the advantage over single rotor, more conventional drive system with simpler diagnostics. Things I like better on the CIH: Pro 600 terminal more user-friendly but this is probably personal preference, better more reliable rock trap design. Newguy will be with me on this one, in that neither one is a Lexion, but if we're just comparing these two CNH machines, I'll pick the yellow one for the crops you mention. |
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New Holland CR Twin Rotor vs CIH 8120
