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Schomberg, Ontario, Canada | Which was the first Ford tractor series to offer live power? Thanks. |
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North Mo. | I am not real sure what a live pto is even looked it up on dogpile. anyway our 1958 ford 860 had a double clutch and our 73 ford 4000 3 cy had a independent pto. Used to mow hiways with a ford 600 pto was clutch operated when pushed clutch in pto stopped, real pia to mow close. Ben |
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Washington, Kansas & Lincoln, Nebraska | The *00 series that came out in '55 was the first. The *60 models in this series were the live PTO models. This live PTO was facilitated by the two stage clutch. Ford came out with independent live PTO in 1959 in the Select-O-Speed equipped tractors. |
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Eastern North Carolina | http://www.oldfordtractors.com/idhistory.htm
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Schomberg, Ontario, Canada | Thanks, guys. |
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NW Ohio,near Findlay | I know the 57 960 has the live, double clutch PTO. We still have it, not a pretty one, we use it. Never been split, same bottom end. Good old spot sprayer and yard, landscape tractor. |
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| Not sure when it was originally offered but the '52-'56 Fordson Major Diesels could be fitted with a 2-stage clutch that allowed the PTO to keep running when the clutch was partially depressed. Everything would stop with the clutch fully depressed and was necessary for shifting the transmission. |
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Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn. | Larry NCKS - 12/28/2010 08:08
The *00 series that came out in '55 was the first. The *60 models in this series were the live PTO models. This live PTO was facilitated by the two stage clutch. Ford came out with independent live PTO in 1959 in the Select-O-Speed equipped tractors.
Yes, I believe this is correct. Dad traded in his "Golden Jubilee" for an 861. The 861 had a 5 speed transmission with the live (not independent) PTO and the two stage clutch. I baled a lot of hay and straw with this tractor on a New Holland Super 66 baler. You needed to push the clutch all the way in to engage the PTO. When you let the clutch out, the PTO started and then the forward motion started when you let the clutch out completely. When using the PTO, you could just push the clutch in part way to stop the forward motion but the PTO would still turn. This worked pretty well with this baler.
Another thing that worked out OK was that the tractor was a bit short on power for the baler which was actually a blessing. If a big slug would come through, the engine would lug down and give the slug time to work through rather than breaking a shear bolt. When the Farmall M was used, I broke a lot more shear bolts. |
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Aurelia, Iowa | That live PTO was a real pain for the application that we used. My dad had a 12 foot case (Hesston) pull type windrower that we pulled behind his 961 Ford diesel. I was only about 12 or 13 but I remember that every time that the windrower was about to plug up, I would hit the foot clutch too fast and it would stop the PTO too and then the windrower was really plugged. Even though it never worked well I still have fond memories of that tractor and doing alot of custom windrowing for the neighbors. Dad built a cab for that tractor and it was actually quite comfortable in the winter. I liked the 961 alot better than my Grandpa's 901 Select 0 Speed (Jerk O Matic). |
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EC Kansas | I have a 860 bought new in 1956, it has the live pto, not sure if it was first, but close. |
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It made a Crop | Where does the term Jerk-O-Matic come from? I've driven a Select-O-Speeds my whole life. A 971,
871, 6000 and 5200.They all shifted smooth "here". Oh course during my fender riding time. Seems like everytime dad shifted he'd instruct me on how to shift. We still have the 971 & 5200. I've used the 5200 with a 500 gal Top-air sprayer for the last three season. I just wish theere was another gear between 8-9. Now the Ford Dual-Power that will give you a jerk then shifting it at 3/4 to full throttle. |
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Aurelia, Iowa | It was a term coined by my Grandfather who owned the tractor. Once my brother was pulling a pull-type sprayer with it and shifted from road gear down one gear and the resulting jerk broke the drawbar which caused the sprayer to overturn in the ditch. |
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Brazilton KS | Our 6000 always shifted smooth...as long as you didn't shift between 4-5 or 8-9-10...those would snap your neck. Honestly I'm not sure the others would really qualify as smooth, either, if you get right down to it. |
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NW Ohio,near Findlay | Dan, the Seclect-O-Speed was the jerk o Matic. Everybody called them that. We had one too, a Ford 971 diesel. Under load, plowing, they would stop, then take off. Rolling loads were not too bad upshifting, but don't try to downshift. Then the coasting gears, the ones with the red marks on the selector. Wonder how many accidents they caused in the hills. Can't remember the coasting gear in the middle of the range, believe was 5th.. If baling down hill with grandpa on tractor, look out. OK if slow up with brake, hope to heck grandpa don't downshift going fast down the hill. |
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It made a Crop | On our 971 and 871 5-6&9 were the coasting gears. |
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Which of the Ford Tractors was the first with live PTO?
