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Southeast Florida | I have a JCB 520-50 rented from Neff identical to this on in the photo. I knew how handy they were but when the director of operation was visiting me and seen it in action he decided they needed to be on all of the company farms coast to coast. Does anybody besides JCB make one with a profile this low? We need to go inside semi trailers and greenhouses to work. Every other manufacture that builds the minis has the boom in the center rather than offset like the JCB. They also have a very high vertical drop on the front where the attachments are that limits tight quarters.
Historically JCB parts are a nightmare to get and nothing will interchange since they're limy design. Has this got better over the years? They have an excellent product as far as I'm concerned, service has been terrible, but this is going back 20+ years to 1989 with a JCB backhoe.
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waupun wisconsin | DONT KNOW ON THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE, BUT WE LEFT THEM ON THE AG TRACTOR END OF THINGS. HIGH PRICED PARTS, WARRANTY ISSUES, AND NO COMPANY SUPPORT. |
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Modena, Wisconsin | Dealer two miles from me has JCB. I haul machinery for them when I'm not busy in the fields. They have many telehandlers out but mostly 541's and a couple 524's. Most of the time parts are in within 3-4 days at most. Only a couple times I can remember a longer wait and that was internal parts for either engine or transmission. They also have a number of the skid steers out and it has been the same story with them on parts. Longest wait I can remember is for the main wiring harness for a 541 that took about 3 weeks. Mechanic was able to hotwire all the critical systems to keep the customer going until the new harness showed up. I think the main reason for lead time was it was a very low usage item. I have hauled several of them that were well used by the hired help and still kept on going.
I use one regularly for loading the truck and rent one for handling seed during planting season and really like the JCB's. I know the little 524 gets around like a skid steer with better lifting capablility. |
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Brazilton KS | I am not aware of anyone building one quite as compact as the 520. I think the telehandlers are built here now, so parts really have no excuse to be any more difficult then any other brand...I'd say their market is a bit larger today then it was in 1989.... |
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central sask | I just got a JCB 1110 skidsteer.
Online parts is non existant. Even dealers think the website/parts system is terrible.
Can't find an oil filter (JCB #320/04133)except from JCB, all other filters have a cross to Fleetguard.
Alberta dealers (Cervus )have more expierience/knowlege/sales than any near me.
It seems the smaller JCB equipment is gaining in sales and satisfaction.
I think that all the skidsteers and mini telehandlers like you pictured are built in Savannah GA.
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central - east central Minnesota - | Most telehandler companies offer "compact" machines, but I'm not sure if they are as compact as the JCB - Bobcat does, as does JLG and Genie, but I'm not able to compare spec's to the JCB easily, for your needs. JCB makes good stuff, it's too bad they can't get their dealer support going ~ |
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| dont they make a 515 also which is smaller, one of the guys on hear owns one a 520, I think it is bushton. |
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Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA | Our Manitou MLT 523 is a compact machine, and it is one of our best buys of the last 10 years, maybe ever. Like you said, once you've run such a machine you can't go without it. Don't buy anything until you try the Manitou.
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Crawford, MS 39743 Uniontown OH 44685 | i agree with ben check out the manitous i don't know if they make one small enough for your needs but they are good machines. we have two of them a 523 and a 634 we use them all the time |
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Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA | Manitou 523 is about the same size as the JCB above. It will fit in a semi trailer....
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| Bobcat V417 would match up size and capacity to the JCB 520. Many dealers. Good parts and availability. I prefer hydrostatic tranny instead of gear/shuttle shift. I bought a compact wheel loader instead. I did not like the poor visibility to the right and poor visibility of bucket and pallet fork tips on the telehandlers. |
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Sunnyside, WA | I'm not sure I want to know how you put a semi on its side like that! |
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Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA | I didn't do it. My part was figuring out how to put it back up. We had the trailer running the next day.
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central - east central Minnesota - | radman1 - 12/25/2010 11:49 Bobcat V417 would match up size and capacity to the JCB 520. Many dealers. Good parts and availability. I prefer hydrostatic tranny instead of gear/shuttle shift. I bought a compact wheel loader instead. I did not like the poor visibility to the right and poor visibility of bucket and pallet fork tips on the telehandlers.
That's what I was thinking, but the bobcat's cab is mid mounted and the JCB is up front by the tool attachment. That would be a big difference with sight . . . .. |
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Southeast Florida | The JCB has good visibility and a lot more stable than an articulated loader. I like everything about the JCB and I'm really not worried about the service as long as it rented. We wanted to buy some telehandlers for other locations. From what I've read so far JCB's service isn't any better now than it was 20 years ago, it still sucks! |
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Somewhereville, Earth | the 520 is a good machine, i know of a place that has had two now,
manitou do offer the 523, have also seen standard manitou on forklift industrial tires, lowering them, for low building work, making them good for recycling centre work etc here
jcb also offer the teletruk, thats a beast
if ya pissed about stuff not fitting, hyd fittings are BSPP, if you own a machine, ring around ya hyd shops and ask if they carry BSPP
manitou uses metric L and S hyd fittings lol......rather have the jcb |
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Flandreau, SD | i guess being 40 miles froma large JCB construction dealer i have a different service opinion. we have not had any problems with service on the 4 loadall's and two backhoes we have had. we have 2 550's and a 214S backhoe currently, 550's are in the upper 4k hours and are pretty good loaders yet. only thing that put us down for a bit was the thrid boom section on one of them that had to come over the pond. i think most of our parts come from the southeast someplace.
i wish our dealer had farm tractors, i would like to run a new JCB tractor. i think they would get one in for me if i paid for it but i dont want to do that yet. |
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Ethridge, TN | Sort of like the looks of that critter, and can think how it could be real handy here........BUT........gonna join George's opinion of parts availability, and price. Had the stint with a JCB Trackhoe, not a bad hoe, but man, parts where priced worse than AGCO. Similar sized machine in a Kitty, parts half the price of the JCB, plus could get them anywhere, the same day. JCB, we can order it, be a couple weeks, and you better be sitting down and propped up when they give you the price. |
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Brazilton KS | We have a 155-65 Fastrac...one of maybe a dozen in the states...I haven't ordered more then a half dozen parts for it in the 13 years we have owned it, and none have been a big deal to get...couple days usually. Most of the time just fix stuff ourselves using off the shelf parts from local sources. |
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Itta Bena Mississippi | Isn't there a big JCB plant right off I-95 around the GA-SC line. I remember going by one on my way to Parris Island a few years ago. Merry Christmas George.
Tom
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Leeds, North Dakota | http://www.jcbna.com/ George, haven't been around one is a while, good machine, Scott. |
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Ethridge, TN | Just about darn near everything gets done in house here, but there are cases when one has to be able to get original equipment parts, and it might have just been that hoe.
It was time to rebuild the under carriage, and there is just next to nothing available in the aftermarket line for it. The big kicker was new drivers for the tracks, plus the rollers are an odd duck. Was able to locate the rails after market, but that was it, rest needed to be from JCB, and the JCB dealer didn't have them in stock. Had to come across the big pond, and would be reliant on when enough orders had been placed thru distribution, to justify a container on a boat. Air Ship, I think I could have flown cheaper than what they wanted to fly those parts. Just to top it all off, the price on those things was exactly double, what a comparative size kitty was. Probably why we are now using a Kitty ! ? ! ? ;-)
If they are building these things in GA now, it might not be the problem that the excavator was, but that experience lingers in the back of ones mind, that you'd sure want proof this was not going to become the same headache. Nothing ever breaks, unless you are needing it, right now. |
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Southeast Florida | Yes, in Savanna, GA, plus Glade & Grove Supply is a dealer for JCB. I'm going to ask about the availability Monday. That doesn't help CA or TX locations.
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West Texas | Where is the farm in Texas? Gin bought a bigger model from dealer in Lubbock. Seems to have decent service and parts availability. Seem popular at feedlots and dairies in the panhandle. Very informative, kept us from buying a telehandler that we didn't need for loading cottonseed.
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West Texas | There's a JCB dealer in Odessa, too. They've been trying to get us to swap our Deere 3400 for one of theirs. |
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Southeast Florida | It’s somewhere around the Laredo area. I'm kind of TJG in MS about his little Sky Trak telehandler, it’s going to one of the last thing to leave the farm. I modified my 7’ 3-pointhitch box blade where the forks slide into square tubing. Miguel can turn it one way and hog dirt and turn around the other and finish grade with it. We have a dirt bucket, clamshell and forks for it. Anything that will go on a skid steer will go on this one. It’s next to impossible to get stuck to where it won’t get it’s self out since you just stab the implement into the ground and push or pull with boom.
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West Union, IOWA FLOLO Farm 52175 | Big problem I see with them.....you'd need a cab enclosure*GRIN*
I was looking for one when I landed MsKitty..... To be brutally honest, I wish I'd held out for the TH330b....
My 220, is good, but I can max it out pretty easily & I'm dang glad I didn't get the JCB,as I can't see how that could do much more then the Deere Skids I was used to(270-332) |
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West Texas | We were going to buy a regular telehandler. After talking to the guys in Lubbock, they showed us that we needed 541-70. They informed us that the neck on a conventional telehandler will not take the pounding of loading seed, manure, or fertillizer. The gin has used it 2 seasons with no problems. |
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West of Dalhart, Texas | We have a 520, a new 527 and a 541 Ag Special. The 520 is 11 years old hasn't had too many problems that weren't caused by careless hired help. I have yet to find anything as compact as 520 is. We just got the 527 about a year ago just a touch bigger. 541 is in the size class of the bigger Deere's. I am a big Deere fan but I wouldn't buy a 3800 unless they completely redesigned it before they brought it back. It was a big P.O.S. I think ASCO Equipment (our local dealer) has stores as far south as Midland Odessa and San Antonio. |
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Southeast Florida | Didn't Deere quit building telehandlers? I'd heard they were junk, I don't know just rumors. |
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West Texas | If that's the one I've seen loading cotton burrs near Grady, then yeah, that looks like a nice machine. |
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West Texas | That's not it, its south of town. But yes they are nice. Don't know how big the bucket is but huge is all that came to my mind. We originally were gonna buy a Cat but learned we would tear it up pretty quick loading seed. They aren't designed to do that kind work, more lifting than digging or pushing. |
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bushton kansas | We have a JCB 520. was going to buy a fork lift and a skid steer for the farm. Bushton 4 said lets try a tele a handler and he found ours on a inter net auction in S. C. it was less than the price of a used fork lift. It came in a van trailer, I do wish it had an enclosed cab kind of cold in the winter feeding cattle in kansas. We have forks, bucket, and a bale spear for it now. Runs 19mph down the road so we don't haul it much. Parts have not been a problem, usually 2 days at the most. We love the thing use it just about every day. |
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Brazilton KS | Must have been looking at the wrong model Cat. A Th62, Th82, TH220 or TH330 will dig or load as well as anything anyone else makes. We've loaded thousands and thousands of tons of litter with a TH62 and TH330B
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West Texas | No we weren't . Primarily oilfield here. |
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Brazilton KS | So what do you claim is going to break on a TH62/82 used for loading seed? Our 62 came from a cotton gin when we got it, and 75% of what it's done in the last 5000 hours has been digging/pushing/loading.
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West Texas | Deere didn't actually build their telehandlers, they subcontracted it out to some European outfit that put it together using parts from Britain, Germany, and who knows where else. And yes, it doesn't seem to be available any longer. The early 3x00 models had a few issues, but overall, we've been pretty happy with the 3400. It's been pretty easy to resolve problems through the dealer. Beats the ol' 4430PS front loader all to pieces. |
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West Texas | The neck is what we were told would tear up. I thought we discussed this before? |
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West Texas | http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=184669&mid=1346391#M1346391 |
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West Texas | http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=150588&mid=1077017#M1077017 |
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Brazilton KS | Perhaps. I would presume the JCB is a capable machine also. Your mileage may vary, I suppose, but I'm talking actual experience here, not just what a competing dealer told me. Suffice to say we have not had any particular problem with ours, in spite of operating it considerably beyond it's intended loading. |
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Brazilton KS | Yeah...you need a machine like a TH62/Th82/TH220/Th330/530/70/541-70/etc if you are going to use it for a loader.... |
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West Texas | I'm not saying they don't design one to do the work but we were buying used in a right now situation. Cat has good products no doubt but were in an area that's over shadowed by oilfield. Go 100 miles north to Lubbock where we bought the machine, ag leads the economy. The Cat saleman probably had bigger fish to fry. |
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Brazilton KS | Okay,.,,,I guess I misunderstood your first reply. I thought you were saying that "no, you were not looking at the wrong model of Cat." |
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Brazilton KS | I thought they bought out whoever was building them for them? Maybe I'm confusing Deere and NewHolland? I think Merlo Matbro was who built one or the other.
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Itta Bena Mississippi | We'll use our Skytrak 10054 Legacy occaisionally to load seed, but the Cat 938G loader is the weapon of choice. The hyd driven reverseable fan makes it much easier to maintain when working in the seedhouse.
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Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA | New Holland telehandlers are Manitous. The LM435A uses the same quick connect system as all Manitous, which is excellent, I might add. Way better than the older NH, Deere or JCB quick connect, IMO. |
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Telehandlers JCB 520?
