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CaseFarmer
Posted 12/5/2010 22:30 (#1470210)
Subject: Bought a frame less dump trailer question


Flora IL
need to lock in the 5th wheel any idea's on whats the best way... need to be able to remove it later for when we put the hopper bottom back on it..
Ive been hauling off alot of our junk metal..hope i can find some still...
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Smoothlander
Posted 12/5/2010 22:35 (#1470220 - in reply to #1470210)
Subject: RE: Bought a frame less dump trailer question



Here is what our trucks have, never used them.

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tooth and nail
Posted 12/5/2010 22:41 (#1470232 - in reply to #1470210)
Subject: Re: Bought a frame less dump trailer question


Why? , I get about 20 -30 loads a month in end dumps ,I've never seen a locked 5th
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illfarmr
Posted 12/5/2010 22:51 (#1470255 - in reply to #1470232)
Subject: Don't have a frameless, do you?


Central Illinois
Frameless fifth wheel plates are made to pivot, unlike other trailers.
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mmaddox
Posted 12/5/2010 23:00 (#1470270 - in reply to #1470232)
Subject: Re: Bought a frame less dump trailer question


Don't need them one on a framed dump, the fifth wheel plate on a frameless dump will pivot, and if the fifth wheel on the truck is not pinned, they will flop back and forth. You do not want to drive a truck and trailer with that kind of movement. I bet if they are frameless, there is something in place to limit that pitch.
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CaseFarmer
Posted 12/5/2010 23:21 (#1470293 - in reply to #1470270)
Subject: Re: Bought a frame less dump trailer question


Flora IL
Yup. U don't want all of that moveing. Thanks smooth. I haven't looked it over yet. Just curious on what u guys have done
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Gambi80
Posted 12/5/2010 23:25 (#1470303 - in reply to #1470210)
Subject: RE: Bought a frame less dump trailer question


The Breakfast Club
Here's what I've got... Just tube welded underneath the rear of the 5th wheel and two pieces, one on either side of the plate...with a pin through it. 'Bout the simplest way. Then mount a couple small pieces of tube elsewhere on the frame for stowage of the pin when it's not needed. Make sure to grease up the pin every time you use it.

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mmaddox
Posted 12/6/2010 08:46 (#1470628 - in reply to #1470303)
Subject: Re: Bought a frame less dump trailer question


The pin set up is the most common, couple of hundred dollars gets you the kit at most places. I usually bolt spacers front and rear, eliminates all movement, and fighting to get the pin out. Doing it this way also means that you do not have to weld under the fifth wheel.
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Case7140
Posted 12/6/2010 09:24 (#1470690 - in reply to #1470628)
Subject: Re: Bought a frame less dump trailer question


Ohio
Do what Maddox says, that is the way we went...have 4 trucks set up this way. -John
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scott nelsen
Posted 12/6/2010 13:40 (#1471037 - in reply to #1470210)
Subject: Re: Bought a frame less dump trailer question


Leeds, North Dakota
okay folks dumb question, why lock it, been around semis for quite some time is the purpose to keep plate flat, per smoothlanders pic, next question i have, if you can't dump air bags how do you hook trailer, got me curious, scott.
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Smoothlander
Posted 12/6/2010 14:44 (#1471114 - in reply to #1471037)
Subject: Re: Bought a frame less dump trailer question



Need to keep the plate flat for frameless end dumps because the king pin plate on the trailer is made to pivot, you don't want two pivot points.
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scott nelsen
Posted 12/6/2010 15:21 (#1471158 - in reply to #1471114)
Subject: Re: Bought a frame less dump trailer question


Leeds, North Dakota
makes sense, scott.
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scott nelsen
Posted 12/6/2010 17:49 (#1471311 - in reply to #1471114)
Subject: Re: Bought a frame less dump trailer question


Leeds, North Dakota
http://bulkequipment.com/products/trailers/trailking_dump_trailers/... bottom picture, correct ?, scott.
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Smoothlander
Posted 12/6/2010 17:54 (#1471318 - in reply to #1471311)
Subject: Re: Bought a frame less dump trailer question



Right on.
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scott nelsen
Posted 12/6/2010 18:00 (#1471339 - in reply to #1471318)
Subject: Re: Bought a frame less dump trailer question


Leeds, North Dakota
got it, like beet boys use, guess my issues woulf be dump air bags and flat stable ground, have seen them, personally wouldn't work to well in this country, rather have a hopper trailer, lots of weight going up in the air, thanks, scott.
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