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Minnesota | Is there a preference between the two companies flex drapers? Any complaints about either one? Thinking about trading of the auger header for a draper to do soybeans on a Lexion combine.
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Leeds, North Dakota | my vote would be macdon, scott. |
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| As green blooded as I am, and buying an auger head as we speak, having looked at the Mac and Honey headers, the one that impresses me the most right now is the Agco/Massey head without that crap in front the throat. Assuming they adapt to a JD STS, I will watch one cut this coming season. |
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C KS | There's a lot of "crap" in front of the throat of a header shaving beans at 6+ MPH! The good part is it shoves it evenly into the combine. Go with the MacDon. |
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East Central Ia | Never seen a HB, but have run 4 seasons with a Case IH 2062 (Macdon 974) and its great. The only trouble we have had is with the aftermarket SCH sickle. We keep breaking the sickle bar, or the drive head... VERY annoying. I would love this head with a dual knife drive!
Edit: Check out this video... at about the 50 sec mark you can see a 590 or 760 (not sure which) pushing a macdon draper at 7mphs. I would assume its a 40' but I can't tell.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03m_g6vPqKU
Edited by bleedred 11/7/2010 16:07
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Flora IL | Agreed. I know it cost more than an auger head but no way would I buy a new auger head. |
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Flora IL | Have u tried the original sickle? |
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Northern Illinois | The massey looks like it will have potential. I like the "hydra flex" looking sickle arrangement. Saw it at NFMS. Local Massey dealer had one but really encouraged a guy to go macdom which he also sold. Massey has several "bugs" to work out. |
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Northern Illinois | Call Todd at SI distributing or Ron at Sch in Iowa. Very helpfull. Never broke a head. Did pull a splice or two apart. I have complete macdon sickle, gaurds and rock retarder for sale. $ 10 cases of Budweiser |
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Northern Illinois | It really doesn't cost it pays! 2 bu/ac @ 12.50 beans and if you cut 1000 acres/year = If you don't cut a 1000 ac/year, hire it done by a draper and save some time and basically get your combining for free. Well, maybe a little over stated! |
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Flora IL | Well I'm not sure about that. Maybe it does save some bushels. Seems like a stretch. But what I do know is I can start very early and when everyone has to stop at 7 or so because of feeding and we quit at 10:30 cause we got the field done that matters |
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Southern Illinois | I am not sure the massey is a true flex draper, from what I understand it just has a flexible cutter bar like an auger head, not a totally flexible frame like the macdon/ |
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East Central Ia | No we got the head used and it had the SCH system on it so that is what we run. If we keep it, it will go back to original case ih parts. |
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East Central Ia | I am 20 mins from Durant where the warehouse is. Ron personally came out and looked at it 2 years ago. We did find a couple things to tweek but we ended up putting a whole new sickle in it, complete with new knives. It made it the rest of that season and the next (1200acs). We almost made it through this season and started breaking the sickle drive head again. Put a new one on it and broke that one. I think our 3rd one made the last hundred acres but the sickle did break at least once more... just not the drive head.
Is it possible that the wobble box is wore out and allowing it to "over stroke" causing it to flex a tiny bit at the drive head? Otherwise I have no idea how it breaks the drive head which is essentially three times as thick as the sickle alone. We have looked at it every which way from sunday and can not see anywhere that its even close to hitting anything on the drive end.
We wanted to put the SCH Pro drive thingy on it but they don't make one for this head... at least they didn't then. Said the mounts were funky and there wasn't room for it. |
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Flora IL | It would be nice to see if the other is better. Don't u have a spare cutterbar with sections in ur head? Or does urs have all sch guards and all? Wonder why it had that on it? |
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Flora IL | Interesting..... Makes u wonder what's up with it |
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East Central Ia | Dang it CaseFarmer! Was hoping for some epiphony! lol
Yeah I know where the head came from originally. Its a VERY early model 2003 2062 that came from case engineering. A neighbor of mine jumped into an 8010 when they first came out and they had it out for him to "try out" when the original 2020 head he got with his first 8010 was so screwed up he... and the dealer refused to except it from the factory. It never left his farm, until he traded it on a 40fter. I have no idea how many acres went through it before our neighbor got it. He didn't run all that much through it, and now we are heavier on corn acres so we run anywhere from 600-800 acres of beans. Hard to justify going with a new draper for that few of acres... not sure what we are going to do for next year but the nightmares we have had with cutter bar are getting old. :( |
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Flora IL | ya i understand.... if you take the wobblebox off and take it to your dealer will they work with you on seeing if somethings wrong..
or just rebuild |
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East Central Ia | Good question. I am little out of sorts with dealer at the moment. They let thier head mechanic go to another dealership after 30+ years without having someone with his comparable experience or expertise to replace him. I am not even sure who to talk to too at my dealer about it. And it doesn't help that everything from the wobble box on is all SCH. Gives them the perfect scapegoat for these kind of tricky problems. |
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Flex draper Honeybee or Macdon
