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DonOK
Posted 9/17/2010 19:28 (#1363452)
Subject: Cat 85D problem?



Looks like our 85D is adding oil to the transmission. We drained about 2 gallons out, and put the level exactly on the full mark. Since then it has risen above that. It does not appear to be lower in the hydraulic tank or the rear end. Anyone else had this problem?

TIA
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Ed Boysun
Posted 9/17/2010 20:12 (#1363491 - in reply to #1363452)
Subject: RE: Cat 85D problem?



Agent Orange: Friendly fire that keeps on burning.

Yep, It happens. There is what they call a flip-flop valve that makes the thing steer like what we expect when we put it in reverse. The thing works on pilot pressure from the reverse clutch pack. When not in reverse, the pilot line dumps any leakage from the steering valves into the transmission. Service manual says to replace valve when leakage becomes excessive. Not sure what excessive is, as they're kinda vague on that point. I just removed the one on the 75, hooked the steering lines together and capped the pilot line. Now turning the wheel right (or left) always results in the front of the tractor going right (or left) -- doesn't matter if you're in forward, neutral, or reverse. As I remember, the new valve was kinda spendy and really no guarantees that it wouldn't have leakage either. Whether it would be deemed to be excessive, is another question.

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DonOK
Posted 9/17/2010 20:26 (#1363502 - in reply to #1363491)
Subject: RE: Cat 85D problem?



Thanks for the reply. Where is this valve located? Is it easy to service without pulling the cab, transmission, etc? I have a service manual. Where would I find this valve?

Looks like it is adding a quart per 10 hours. I wouldn't care except it is a different oil.


Edited by Tucker 9/17/2010 20:27
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DonOK
Posted 9/17/2010 20:57 (#1363535 - in reply to #1363502)
Subject: RE: Cat 85D problem?



Ok, I have found the diverter(flip flop) valve in the service manual. The illustration is a schematic only, and does not help me locate its position on the tractor. I have not found the valve in the parts book yet. Still looking.
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Ed Boysun
Posted 9/17/2010 21:51 (#1363606 - in reply to #1363535)
Subject: RE: Cat 85D problem?



Agent Orange: Friendly fire that keeps on burning.

Take the seat out and remove the floor panel that's under the seat. If I remember correctly, it's fastened to the back of the steering valve atop the transmission. Four half inch hoses and one small one that comes off the transmission. Here's a pic of the one I removed from my 75:

Flip Flop Valve

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DonOK
Posted 9/18/2010 18:04 (#1364672 - in reply to #1363606)
Subject: Thanks for the advice. NT



NT
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