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| Have baled straw in the past following a rotary combine and have had troubles with the straw feeding in the baler. We have a Vermeer 605 super J with the kicker wheels. Going to have to bale several bales this wheat season and wondered if anyone had tricks or ideas that can help the straw feed better. Attachments or speed of pickup anything that might work. In the past we have tried to bale with different moisture in the straw and even driving over the windrow before baling helped a little. It seems the straw is so fluffy it doesn't feed very well.
Thanks for any ideas |
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Northern NE Panhandle | Bale it as damp as you can (withing reason), and drive as fast as you can. The biggest problem i had baling rotary straw was chaff coming down and plugging the twine arms while it was tying on a 535 and 566 JD |
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mw | We had some trouble too but it seems like the faster you go the less problems there are. |
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Kittitas Co. Wa. State | Do not use a Rotary combine if you plan on baling the straw. It's about like trying to bale sawdust.. That aside,, as has been said, bale with as much dew as possible it might hold together a bit better. I baled behind a rotary exactly 1 time, never again. What finally made it into the bale wasn't worth the cost of the plastic twine. Had the custom harvester do a field and I had told him right at the very start, "don't spread the straw, drop it in the windrow, cause I'm going to bale the straw". Even knowing that I guess he didn't feel it too important to send one of his other combines in to harvest the field,, and sent his rotary instead. I was led to believe one of his cylinder machines would be doing the combining. . |
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S.W. Manitoba | If it gets severely dry then ya maybe have to wait till later in the day. Last year no one was baling straw during the day except those who had a Hesston. We was fine. You might depending on what your using (twine or net) have to back into the wind a certain direction to blow chaff off the knife. I have to on the Hesston. Vermeers are great balers.
Take care,
Nathan |
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| I have grown oats for a number of years and combined with a JD 9650 STS. I straight cut it and had JD round balers and also our old 24t bale it with absolutely no trouble at all. I had the people that bought the squares say it was the best bedding and the easiest to spread. My friend square bales behind his CIH and has no problems. I don't know what we are doing different but it sure works. |
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| I am guessing that the differance is between oat and wheat straw! just a guess, But i know bean staw behind a IH combine is not very rewarding!! |
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Dunnell MN | New pick-up teeth are required for cornstalks. Pay attention to the aggressiveness of the pick-up. (left side of the pick up 3 bolts in a circle with slots. Belt tension on an empty chamber are just tight enough to get them to turn no tighter. That is not determined by the air bags but by stop on the tightening arm.
Dissclaimer: it has been at least 10 years ago since I ran a 605 J, it even had auto weave.
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Texas | Y ou need moisture , over dry hay is a problem with a deere 435 like we have .
I dont bale much during the heat of the day , we have temps of 100 , so the moisture is gone by 11:00 am .
We bale a bunch of sudan , i like to start at 3-4 am ,if i can , might get to run until 12 noon . |
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| Thanks for all the ideas. Like the going "faster" idea but sometimes by the time I see I have a problem it just makes the problem bigger the faster I go. |
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| I bale behind a JD cylinder and a Case/IH rotary with few problems. For round baling, faster is better, as was mentioned by others. Square baling requires that the baler pickup reel be all the way up so that the teeth don't pick up too much dirt when crossing ditches, or cause the reel to bind and break chains. The straw choppers must be disconnected and slid out of the way. I also made a windrow builder out of rebar and 1-1/2" flat iron that bolts to the back of the combines underneath the area where the straw falls off the walkers. This helps form a narrower windrow so that I get more of the straw. Works for rice and wheat. |
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West Central Alberta Coldest, wettest edge | I use a 605H and G I believe the bale chamber was similiar on the J. When baling a very light and short crop behind JD rotaries, it was a nightmare, until I found that it works best when gravity was on my side. the H has a turnbuckle between the baler and the hitch to level the baler, when I used that and tipped the baler back as far as I could, then gravity helped feed the crumbs into the baler that would otherwise just keep circulating on the pickup. Then I could fly through it without issue. Pickup teeth in good shape are a must. I've also tried building a windguard that follows the profile of the pickup better than the straight guard on these balers, to keep the material feeding instead of rolling along in front, but never tried it in straw. Iknow the same concept worked perfectly on the silage cutter in short crop in a drought. |
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oxford county, ontario | Baling when there is a bit of moisture on the straw certainly helps. If you don't want to drive faster, try slowing down the engine so that your pto speed slows a bit. I try to get the pickup speed to match the ground speed so that the pickup isn't trying to roll the material ahead of the machine. |
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Tips On Baling Straw
