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RickB
Posted 3/6/2007 18:29 (#115689)
Subject: Kuhn Double Rake



Lincoln County. NC
Need your pro's and con's on a Kuhn 7822 double rotary rake. Will be following a Deere 946 disc moco. Thanks in advance, Rick
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Oliver
Posted 3/6/2007 20:10 (#115724 - in reply to #115689)
Subject: RE: Kuhn Double Rake



Shaftsbury, Vermont (SW VT)
That's an excellent rake, Rick. Should give you good service. I assume you are baling behind that? If you're chopping, and have sandy ground, I feel you would be better off picking it up with a merger. It's unbelievable how much sand gets raked up. The rate of wear skyrockets; really shows in the blower and transition chute.
If you're free tomorrow, JD day is at our store from 10-3. Fultonville is Saturday; I don't know which day is Chatham. Should have e-mailed you sooner. Grab Jerry and come on up. Oliver Durand

The Hudson River Tractor
Company, LLC.

edit: I forgot the new baler. When do you expect to get it? I hope it comes in after the salt is off the roads. Damn, I hate to see a new machine come in all covered with salt! OD

Edited by Oliver 3/6/2007 21:06
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jd6400
Posted 3/6/2007 20:33 (#115739 - in reply to #115689)
Subject: RE: Kuhn Double Rake



Neighbor has one and said it`s the most trouble free piece of equipment he has. He also chose it over Claas. If I may ask, what are they asking for that model? One of these days I will have one.
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RodInNS
Posted 3/6/2007 22:10 (#115810 - in reply to #115689)
Subject: RE: Kuhn Double Rake


Rick,

I don't have that particular model, but I've got a 14' single.... dammed if I can remember the model number. Anyway. Nice strong rake. No problems. Like it well. The only thing I don't like is the way it rakes sticks, stones, sand, etc. We used to mow with a NH 465 disc mower, and then rake ahead of the harvester. One day cured us of that. Couldn't keep knives or an edge on the knives in the Deere harvester. So we ended up going out and buying a discbine, which we'd been meaning to do anyhow.
Probably didn't have the rake adjusted quite right that first year..... and it's much better now, but I think you'll still get a fair amount of dirt. It just sweeps so clean..... So, a great rake for hay or round bale silage, but not when you're chopping.
For what it's worth, I still wouldn't go back to the 254 NH tedder/rake. I'll tolerate the one minor issue with this one. Good luck.

Rod
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mrcinch
Posted 3/7/2007 00:48 (#115911 - in reply to #115689)
Subject: RE: Kuhn Double Rake


Guelph, Ontario
We are looking at buying the same rake for our operation. Everyone that I talk to said nothing but good things about them. The local dealer said that if you are turning two windrows seperatly they are not quiet the same distance apart as they were before they were raked. Not sure how that is but they are a hair closer together after raking them. He suggested getting a Kuhn 7302DL. They are semi mounted with two lift up rotars. They are best if you rake back and forth with the headlands still in the field as they will clear the racked swaths when turning on them. He also said that the 7822 needs a lot of adjustment in the steering of the rear rake when turning around corners or wavy swaths in the field. The 7302 does not need theis as it has a steering axle in the back. When the tractor turns so does the steering axle, therefore there is no hydraulic bumping of the steering requird. I have looking into these two models a lot and if you would like more info email me (Tysson) at [email protected]
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RickB
Posted 3/7/2007 06:47 (#115965 - in reply to #115689)
Subject: Follow up



Lincoln County. NC
Does the 7822 have sufficient clearance when fully raised to clear windrows already raked? Vicon rakes seem to have gobs of clearance. I don't think I want a semi-mount machine in this application.
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mrcinch
Posted 3/7/2007 21:48 (#116391 - in reply to #115965)
Subject: RE: Follow up


Guelph, Ontario
The clearance under the tines I am told is high enough to turn over racked swaths but I bet there are times when they will grab a bit and throw it around. The only problem that I am having with the 7822 is when you do turn over racked swathes there are 6 or more extra tires, comparied to the semi mount, that will flattening out that swath. On the semi mount rake the rear steering axle I am told follow the tractor tires very closely therefore only two tires on the rake flattening the swath. You will never have a clearance issue with this type of rake. Are you using it for putting two swaths together for a chopper or for dry hay production?
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Rodney R
Posted 3/8/2007 18:19 (#116797 - in reply to #116391)
Subject: RE: Follow up


SE PA
The 7302 will have the tires in the same tracks if you're going straight, if you're turning, more than likely, the tracks will be right next to the tractor tire tracks. Either way, it's still a LOT less tracks. There are a gazillion grease zerks on the 7302, but I bet the 7822 has just about as many. 7302 has 3 pto shafts with CV joints at both ends, so that's 18 right there. But only need to do them every 20-30 hours or so.... you can rake a LOT of hay in 20-30 hours. Ours won't go over the top of the rolls without catching.... maybe the new ones go up higher? I see no reason why they couldn't.

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