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Southern Illinois | Anyone done this? If so how did you get it to feed? I tried a couple of loader buckets full in my Tote spreader. Would not feed under the floor chain shield. I was not happy about shovelling it back out. At least I didn't fill it up. I have never looked in the bed of a lime truck or a terragator, does anyone know if they just do not have a shield instaled above the chain. And does anyone know if I remove the shield, will the chain stick with the wieght of the lime on it on a ground driven spreader? |
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| The lime spreaders I have used have a larger opening at the rear and have a chain and bat style of feeder like a manure spreader. It is a wide bat so that the lime can't bridge over it. I do not know if you will have problems with the lime bridging on a smaller chain like the fertilizer carts use if you did take the cover off. I guess there is only one way to really find out if no one else has tried it. Good luck. |
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| Will not work. Ever.
The chain is too narrow and the drive system to weak.
You have only shoveled a few pounds. Quit while you are ahead.
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Brazilton KS | It depends on what sort of fertilizer bed you are looking at. There are many dual purpose beds which will spread both, as well as some which will also spread litter. A litter spreader will have a 30" or wider chain. A lime spreader will have a 20" or wider chain or belt. Anything narrower then that must be a fertilizer spreader. Wider belts or chains will work in place of narrower as long as you can get the rate low enough. Trying to use narrower when you need wider or a belt when you need a chain will result in wear and tear on your shovels and the operator of the shovels. |
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Ashley, IL | We use this one for fert and lime. It will put out up to 2 tons of lime per acre. I just redid it this spring with new fans, redone hyd motors, and new paint. Will hold 8 plus tons. May be for sale this winter?
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Southern Illinois | Does that one have a shield over the chain down the center? What I have is a 4 ton Tote (now made by Dalton Ag). The lime all ran out from the back and in the front, its just through the center the shield only has about a 3" gap between it and the sides. Thats where the lime will not feed out. The application chart goes up to a little over 1 ton /acre. Its got a 12" chain. |
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East Palestine, Ohio (Columbiana Co.) | After you take the sheild out, and get some one to drive the tractor while your riding in box with a hoe handle to keep knocking the lime down to the chain that keeps bridging, check the flow divider that feeds the fertilizer to the fans for an even spread. Chances are better than fair that you'll find another place the lime won't feed through.
I've put it on with a manure spreader before;2-3 skid loader buckets on top of load of manure ........also just straight lime in the spreader. Not precision spread but got done with no shoveling.
Good Luck!!......... The Dumb Farmer
Edited by Dumb Farmer 4/30/2006 00:49
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Ashley, IL | Ours is a Chandler spreader. It has no shield over the chain. It has a 16" wide chain. It will spread fert 50' wide or lime at 30' wide. It is made to spread lime and has a two speed floor chain. It goes good with dry lime, but sometimes wet lime will hang up some. Not sure how yours will do on lime if you take the shield out? Would try a small amout the first time. |
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Somerville, Indiana | I have heard Chandler and fertilizer spreader mentioned in the same sentence before...Forgot whether good or bad...Catfish?
One thing to remember, you will never see a lime spreader drive with a small rubber tire...They just don't go together...Yes, some can and will get by with those, just like anything else, some time, some where, out comes the shovel. |
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| I can't speak to other areas of the country. But if you look around your area to see what the retailers are using it is a good indicator of quality. When something goes out with any person that wants to use one you will find out real quick if it is built right.
Here you see the Willmar, Adams and some Tylers. Willmar is by far the most used. Adams is the best in my eye. Tylers are left overs of "gifts" to purchasers.
Chandler in use in this area. Local contractor/farmer has one to use on lime and fertilizer. They are very good operators and baby their machines. I think it is about 6 years old. Wide, mesh chain unit. Around 24" if memory serves. Basic report as follows. Weak layout of drive. No structural problems yet. But drive system has been totally rebuilt at least twice. Broke back drive roller on the chain last fall. If it can't survive their use.....................................
For the record, lime off the ground (field loaded) is quite a test of the loader operator and the machines ability to handle dirt. Fescue sod is the number one killer of lime beds. Second is large rocks in the lime. I find that if you bounce one or two off the quarry office desk they don't seem to find their way into the lime any more.
I find as I get older the Mexican Dragline just isn't as much fun to use of it was in the past.
Tim
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Brazilton KS | There are no retailers with spreaders for customer use other then fertilizer buggies. That doesn't help the lime spreader question much. Chandler has the reputation of being the best litter spreader. I would place litter a step higher then lime on the "hard to handle" ladder, although lime id much heavier which leads to some differences....a litter spreader uses a lime divider when spreading lime, but if you try litter with it in you will try out the shovel shortly aftewards. Mechanical drive Chandler litter spreaders do not have a good reputation.....most everyone opts for full hydraulic drive which would eliminate the drive train weakness you mentioned. My favorite of the fertilizer buggies was the Dempster. May not even be in the picture any more but always took the 8 ton Dempster when it was availible, in preference to the much newer Willmars. I never got along well with the belt drive fans on the Willmar and their idea of running the drive sprocket outside the chain loop led to lots of trouble on rough ground....axle drops too far and chain jumps off sprocket. Lengthening chain for greater wrap greatly reduced problem but I didn't like having to correct this problem on every spreader the dealer had. |
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| Don't know about the Dempters. Only see them in ads and not to often.
Concur with the Willmar chain drive. That is why I like the Adams with the torsion axle better. Chain stays on because movement of the axle is limited. Also, the torsion axles are much more stronger than the spring and equalizer set up on the Willmars. LOTS less maintenance. Adams total ground drive buggies are as near trouble free as any farm equipment gets.
Chandler litter spreaders are ok. I have had excellent service from Adams in the fertilizer buggies so I am inclined to stick with them on the litter spreaders as well. Quality usually runs thru out the product lines within a company. Will agree that the hyd. drive is the only way to go. Lots of Chandler mech. drives trying to be traded in around here. Dealers don't want them at any price. Also hear that the axles are weak compared to the size of the loads in our rough ground.
Had the chance to visit your state last week. Hesston area. If your ground is like it is around there you do not put near the wear and tear on a spreader that we do in Kentucky. It would be very hard to compare chassis life between the two locations.
Can't say I liked the weather while I was there. Just couldn't get use to the sports terms in the weather forecast. (: Had a semi with van trailer blown off the overpass in front of us. Just rolled over onto the on ramp. Kelly had her eyes covered between Newton and Hesston. She kept complaining she didn't want to repaint the car. I told her that judging by the Weather Band radio she would not be repainting the same sheet metal. (: Luck was with us. Not a sign of hail. Don't think I will get her to go back.
Did notice a lot of stripes in the wheat fields. Is this from poor set up or are people using low rates of N spread by itself?
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Brazilton KS | The Dempsters I remember had walking beam axles with a double knuckle drive shaft going out to a disengagible hub on one wheel. I don't recall ever having a problem with them going out of gear once you put them in. We're a world away from Hesston, but still not nearly as rough as parts of Kentucky. The chassis on our B & B I pull spreader has required some welding. I do not think it was built to be pulled by a track tractor while loaded to about 150% of it's capacity. Most around this area use trucks, the pull spreader is sort of unusual. We rented a Chandler last spring and I had a considerably stronger chassis then the B & B I which did not exhibit much welding...had been a customer loaner type machine so I'm sure it got some abuse, and it had 3 12" boards around the top to increase capacity. If you drove to Hesston from home you most likely passed near us. Need to get a mapdot back in my signature, we're just about in Missouri and one row of counties up from OK. |
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spreading lime with a fert buggy
