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NWOHyoungfarmer
Posted 2/22/2010 11:24 (#1087403)
Subject: Big Square Bale Spears?


Northwest Ohio
I am looking to buy or build a couple of sets of bale spears one for my skid loader and one for my telehandler.  I am going to be handling 3x4x7.5 big square bales.  Just wondering if anyone has made there own or bought a set, either way which is the best brand/design to buy or build.   Thanks
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Badger
Posted 2/22/2010 11:39 (#1087421 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: Re: Big Square Bale Spears?


Huntley Montana
check ebay
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iseedit
Posted 2/22/2010 11:42 (#1087425 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: RE: Big Square Bale Spears?



central - east central Minnesota -

Check out Horst (HLA) welding - http://www.horstwelding.com/hla_thumbs.php?cat=10

They have the loader attachments premade if you want to make the frame and spears . . .

This is what I got from them and modified for my use . .





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Greg Stremel
Posted 2/22/2010 11:42 (#1087427 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: RE: Big Square Bale Spears?


Southwest Missouri
We have made several for our 4 x 4 x 8 bales. Whether to buy or to build depends on your fabrication skills.

If you are only going to pick one bale at a time, I would use 2 spears about 30 inches apart. If you are carrying two at a time, one on top of the other, then I would use 4 spears.

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ne_mn
Posted 2/22/2010 11:44 (#1087430 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: RE: Big Square Bale Spears?



Kettle River, MN
We've made our own buckets for our skidloader and bought the spears. Only needed two spears because just handling round bales.

Cant beat this outfit for bushings and spear prices.

http://mower-blades.agrisupply.com/search?w=bale+spear&asug=

There have been threads about bale buckets in stock talk.
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iseedit
Posted 2/22/2010 11:53 (#1087437 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: RE: Something to consider . . .



central - east central Minnesota -

The more spears and the longer the spears you shove in the bale, the harder it is to manipulate the bale off the spears / stack (ie: get the spears back out of the bale). I handle 2 - 3x4x8 bales easily with 3 spears - neighbor in the old neighborhood, has 4 spears and has a harder time getting the spears out when stacking the top layers, he likes to use my 3 spear set up . .. Something to consider . . .

I also have a hinged spear fork for the skidsteer . . . I like it, Chad (Pofarmer) made one up and if I recall, indicated he didn't care for it . . . It makes it easier to get the spears out of very tight bales / hays  . . .

Look here ~ http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=66102&mid=467312#M467312

 



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Ken cen-pa
Posted 2/22/2010 11:55 (#1087441 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: Re: Big Square Bale Spears?


cental pa along the Susquehanna River
Hey Ben we bought ours in here. Company called Paul b Zimmerman if you look under cattle equipment you can find some pics of what they have. We have had there movers on our skidsteers for many years and work very good.
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J. Sheehan
Posted 2/22/2010 12:15 (#1087473 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: RE: Big Square Bale Spears?


Sunnyside, WA
We bought ours from a local outfit in Oregon. Made to handle two 4 X 4 X 8 bales or three 3 X 4 X 8 bales and that is just enough on a telehandler. Will actually handle 3 one tone bales and 4 3 X 4 bales on our payloaders. Bottom spears are 24" and there is five of them. Six more 18" or 24" spears to stabilize the load. The clamps work well to hold the load on.



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5288
Posted 2/22/2010 12:31 (#1087489 - in reply to #1087473)
Subject: Re: Big Square Bale Spears?


S.E. South Dakota
Try MDS MFG in Parkston SD.I got a 4 sprear and pickup 3 3x4x8 bales.I wish i would have got a push off on mine.
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NWOHyoungfarmer
Posted 2/22/2010 12:35 (#1087493 - in reply to #1087473)
Subject: RE: Big Square Bale Spears?


Northwest Ohio
I really would like to build my own just wondering what everyone thought about adding a cylinder for side shift that way if i needed to bump it over a bit when loading semis I could.  The only other thing that I worry about is having too high of a bulk head that when I want to top off stacks in my barn it would be too high.  In the middle of my barn I can stack ten high but I know I can just add a stack of two at the bottom at make it all work out.  Our last forklift had sideshift and if you weren't just right you could side shift it without having to move, which saved a lot of time.   Just kinda wanted to get your guys opinion.   Thanks
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seedcleaner
Posted 2/22/2010 13:19 (#1087561 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: Re: Big Square Bale Spears?


Mid-Missouri
It seems the black spears I buy hold up better than any of the shiny, silver ones. The black ones I prefer have three small letters stamped into them in the middle, something like "ibt". If you want to make some spears, axles shafts work very well from a semi floating axle. The hub for the wheel with bolt holes allow it to be bolted up to the framework with square u-bolts. Taper the other end of the shaft to penetrate the bale. If you space the tines to where they would handle a wood pallet safely, you can use the attachment more often. Goodluck
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Pofarmer
Posted 2/22/2010 13:24 (#1087566 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: RE: Big Square Bale Spears?



Here area  couple we built.  This one fits the 5140 and is the one that is hinged.  It is O.K. for loading trucks, but is kind of a pain for double stacking bales in the field.  I intend on putting  a lock of some sort on it.  It's really nice when stacking 3 high on trucks.

 

This is the other one we built at the same time that fits on Dad's Farmhand loader.

 

 

It doesn't hinge, and get's along fine.  The spears are from Agrisupply, and are their 39" forged and they have held up VERY well.  They are both made to safely handle bales two tall.  I would like to put an additional backstop on mine to handle bales 3 high, but, like you, I would have some shed issues, so, for now, just plan ahead.  As far as the side shift, when loading with a FWA it seems like you get enough movement to not need it that badly, although, once in a while, I'll push a load from the back to tighten it up.  

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NWOHyoungfarmer
Posted 2/22/2010 14:29 (#1087654 - in reply to #1087566)
Subject: RE: Big Square Bale Spears?


Northwest Ohio
Thanks for reminding me, with a telehandler I will have more weight that I can push from rear to tighten up.  Maybe I will build one and have a hydraulic push off. 
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NWOHyoungfarmer
Posted 2/22/2010 14:31 (#1087658 - in reply to #1087654)
Subject: 5288 could you please email me...NT


Northwest Ohio

Mike if you could drop me an email I have a few questions for you.  Thanks



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tomosakis
Posted 2/22/2010 15:10 (#1087707 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: RE: Big Square Bale Spears?


Osakis, MN
The bale spears that we use are just Bobcat or John Deere replaceable grapple fork, or manure fork tines. They work excellent and are easy to get replacements if you happen to do something stupid and break one! It happens. I use 4 tines on 3x3x8 bales and carry 3 bales, it works very good. With 3x4x8 I think that 5 would be a little better to handle the extra weight. Ours is made with two seperate upright backs with a 2 foot space between them. If your using one on a skidloader with a door it makes it so much easier to get in and out of the cab if you can walk straight out. For the guys that carry 3x3x8's I would make my next spear so the attachment sat out another 4 or 5 inches from the front of the skidloader for stabbing the middle row of bales off the trailer, sometimes you just can't reach them where the wheels on the skidloader and the trailer meet.  The other place it would be handy is when you are loading trucks and have 1 bale on ground in your stack you can reach up and take a couple bales from behind and set them on the single one on the ground easier. This way you don't have to move a single bale off to the side sometimes to grab a full load.   Also make the quicktach plate attach at the same approx angle to the ground as your other buckets do, so you can roll the bale fork back enough to keep the bales from leaning forward and tipping off as easy, gets them over center easier when the lift arms are closer to the ground. ( Hope that makes sense)  Just what I feel and in no way is this the only way, but as I use ours I sometimes think I would make it just a little easier to use, and slightly safer!  Hope this helps in your plans.
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tomnwoh
Posted 2/22/2010 17:17 (#1087849 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: RE: Big Square Bale Spears?


curtice,ohio
check with mast sales in berlin,oh. just west of millersburg.they have a fab shop staffed with amish. i have bought 2 buckets from them and you can't hardly build them for their price. excellant workmanship and well built equipment. very modern shop with good work ethics good trip and get a good meal at the same time. they also will fab equipment. they built a quick tach for my older loader, really nice
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JoshA
Posted 2/22/2010 18:34 (#1087950 - in reply to #1087707)
Subject: RE: Big Square Bale Spears?



Alberta, Canada
tomosakis - 2/22/2010 13:10

I use 4 tines on 3x3x8 bales and carry 3 bales, it works very good. With 3x4x8 I think that 5 would be a little better to handle the extra weight.


We have 4 tines (49" long) on our square bale forks, carry 3 at a time, (hay straw & SILAGE), never had issues with breaking (our silage bales can be 2,800lbs a piece), would definitely not want 5 tines. Would like to get a couple 3 spear forks for just dry bales though (still handle 3 at a time though) --- we have a hard time backing out of or pushing into bales simply because of how tight they are. Thinking 3 tines would make life easier.

I recommend stabilizing spikes for the upper bales though:


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tomosakis
Posted 2/22/2010 18:59 (#1087992 - in reply to #1087950)
Subject: RE: Big Square Bale Spears?


Osakis, MN
I see that your tines are quite a bit longer than our are I think mine are like 27 to 30" long made more for 3x3's I suppose. I would think with those longer tines 5 would probably be overkill I think that as long as your bales are really tight 3 would do, but a softer bale would maybe tend to pull through in rough ground.
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rosefarms
Posted 2/22/2010 20:04 (#1088145 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: Re: Big Square Bale Spears?


Middle Tennessee
I have 3 heavey duty sets I would sale one skid loader two John Deere 740. cell # 931-224-4417
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shepard
Posted 2/22/2010 21:38 (#1088382 - in reply to #1087403)
Subject: Re: Big Square Bale Spears?



North Central Ohio
don't know were your at but if your close to bellevue you can stop and check out mine a msd 4 forks with a ext for a 3rd bale.
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