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IL Deere Driver
Posted 12/24/2009 22:26 (#984400)
Subject: JD Tractor Serial Number



Central IL
Can someone please give me the history of a tractor with serial # RW4850P005387 TIA
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twocyler
Posted 12/24/2009 22:57 (#984444 - in reply to #984400)
Subject: Re: JD Tractor Serial Number


Here is some good data.............. for your John Deere 4850

Production years: 1983 - 1988

Previous model: John Deere 4840

Tractor type: Farm/Agricultural tractor




Overview
Engine
Transmission
Dimensions
Tests
Prices



Production:
Manufacturer: John Deere

Series: 50 Series

Factory: Waterloo, Iowa, USA

Total built: -unknown-
Original price: $71,000 (1988)


John Deere 4850 Engine:
John Deere 6-cyl diesel
full engine details ...

Capacity:
Fuel: 102 gal [386.1 L]

Hydraulic system: 18.6 gal [70.4 L] (2WD)
21.6 gal [81.8 L] (4WD)


3-Point Hitch:
Rear Type: 3/3N

Rear lift: 9,599 lbs [4354 kg]


Power Take-off (PTO):
Rear PTO: independent

Rear RPMs: 1000


Dimensions & Tires:
Wheelbase: 118.5 inches [300 cm] (2WD)
117.1 inches [297 cm] (4WD)

Weight: 17457 to 18720 pounds

Front tire: 11.00-16

Rear tire: 20.8-38

full dimensions and tires ...

4850 Serial Numbers:
Location: Differential on rear of tractor.

1983: 1000 & up
1984: 5001 & up
1985: 8001 & up
1986: 10001 & up
1987: 11001 & up
1988: 12001 & up
1989: 14501 & up ... last year made


John Deere 4850 Power:
Engine: John Deere
Drawbar (claimed): 162 hp [120.8 kW]

PTO (claimed): 190 hp [141.7 kW]

Drawbar (tested): 164.73 hp [122.8 kW]

PTO (tested): 192.99 hp [143.9 kW]

power test details ...

Mechanical:
Chassis: 4x2 2WD
4x4 MFWD 4WD (optional)

Steering: hydrostatic power

Brakes: hydraulic wet disc

Cab: Sound-Gard



Hydraulics:
Type: closed center

Capacity: 18.6 gal [70.4 L] (2WD)
21.6 gal [81.8 L] (4WD)

Pressure: 2277 psi [157.0 bar]

SCV Valves: 2 or 3

Total flow: -unknown-
Valve flow: 29.5 gpm [111.7 lpm]

John Deere Steering flow: -unknown-

Electrical:
Ground: -unknown-
Charging system: alternator

Alternator amps: 90


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mqbrown
Posted 12/24/2009 23:15 (#984465 - in reply to #984400)
Subject: Re: JD Tractor Serial Number


Can't trace through Deere intranet system. Model is too old. Sorry!
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JDTECH
Posted 12/25/2009 02:13 (#984660 - in reply to #984400)
Subject: Re: JD Tractor Serial Number


NEMO
Can you verify the actual pin # on the tractor? I don't believe that the 50 series had the full 13 digit pin. I believe the full 13 digit pin started with the 55 series. A search of the last 6 digits will bring up a 4850 sold by dealer in Danville, IL in 1984 to a gentleman in Fairmount, IL. Currently shows dealer in Freeport, IL to be current owner since October of 2008. Cannot tell if the original owner had it for 24 years or if there is some missing info inbetween.
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IL Deere Driver
Posted 12/25/2009 08:56 (#984774 - in reply to #984660)
Subject: Re: JD Tractor Serial Number



Central IL
I will try and do some checking but it may be a while. But an indivdual has it right now, not the dealer in Freeport. Sounds like it could be the right tractor though. Did it show the hours when the dealer in freeport had it?
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s_fritz
Posted 12/25/2009 09:13 (#984802 - in reply to #984400)
Subject: RE: JD Tractor Serial Number


SC Illinois
This site http://www.jensales.com/tractordata.aspx gives the year made and data on most tractors.
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IL Deere Driver
Posted 12/25/2009 10:30 (#984909 - in reply to #984802)
Subject: RE: JD Tractor Serial Number



Central IL
that is pretty helpful, but I am more interested in knowing the history of the tractor, to try and verify the hours are right and any major repairs and things like that.
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Omar
Posted 12/25/2009 11:13 (#984998 - in reply to #984774)
Subject: Re: JD Tractor Serial Number


Elmira, Ontario

Even if the hours were listed on the machine history, I wouldn't trust them. Too often the delivery receipts are done by the dealer's accounting department based on information they have available at the time of transaction. In other words, sometimes they are guesses.

On older tractors like that, telling Deere about ownership transfers was a real pain. It's easier now with direct computer links, but many dealers probably still only do the delivery receipts when it involves using Deere for floor-plan financing. Farmer to farmer, or through competitive dealers or auctions, won't get registered with Deere usually. Sometimes the service office will do it if the tractor is in for a major repair or something. In this particular case, it looks like the second dealer may have paid out the floorplan before they sold it, so the delivery receipt didn't get done when it finally got sold. We usually do it anyway, but some dealers probably don't.

Usually the only repair history you will see is whether PIP's were done, and any warranty claims. In other words, you only see the stuff that Deere paid for.

Bottom line, you can use the facts gathered by Deere for the machine history as a means of verifying someone's story, but it's not a primary source of data about the machine.


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JDTECH
Posted 12/25/2009 14:18 (#985322 - in reply to #984774)
Subject: Re: JD Tractor Serial Number


NEMO
There are no last reported hours posted when the dealer in Freeport had it. I'm sorry to say that about the only option you have is the "old fashioned way" and start by actual p/n # and current owner, get on the phone and start tracing back previous owners, asking for repair and hour history. You will be at their mercy as far as how good of records they kept, how much info they are willing to give and in some cases, owner may have passed, moved or no longer in buisness. Good luck in your search. I hope that you find the info that you are looking for. some times when a tach has been replaced the tech will scribe or write the previous hours on the back of the tach.
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