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Posted 11/25/2009 00:01 (#937311)
Subject: air blaster for tire replacement


southern saskatchewan
Are air blaster's worth buying to air up tires? Do they work good or is there something better out there? What do they cost? Any other methods besides ether, not something I want to get good at doing. TIA
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jedeka
Posted 11/25/2009 00:38 (#937340 - in reply to #937311)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement


Boone, Iowa
I finally broke down and bought a Beat Cheetah, some tire irons, a locking air chuck and a bucket of bead lube. I can change semi tires faster than a guy can keep up airing them up. It can be back breaking job, but kinda fun and rewarding, after figuring up how much money you can save. I even managed to mount a couple of 18.4x38 tires on rims, using the Bead Cheetah. That was a challenge.  I do not remember the exact cost of things, but bought everything I needed from Myers Tire.

Edited by jedeka 11/25/2009 00:38
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John.jr
Posted 11/25/2009 00:44 (#937344 - in reply to #937311)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement



Fancy prairie, Illinois
They work really good, but could not see buying an actual bead cheetah for $350. I ended up making one just got a 2-3 gallon tank, 1 1/2" bushing, valve, and 2' of pipe. Weld the bushing to the tank, put the valve on, then the pipe with one end smashed flat.
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uofiben
Posted 11/25/2009 00:47 (#937347 - in reply to #937311)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement


We looked at these but the price was so high because of the liability with selling something as dangerous as this. We ended up buying a 4 gallon portable air tank and cutting a hole in one end with a plasma cutter, then welded a pipe fitting to it and attached a ball valve and another short piece of pipe. Then smashed down the end of the pipe to direct the air into the tire. This is very dangerous and I would not recomend trying unless you are a very good welder.
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Discblade
Posted 11/25/2009 01:49 (#937376 - in reply to #937311)
Subject: RE: air blaster for tire replacement


Southern IN
If you are going to change your own tractor, or semi tires you need a bead blaster. Semi tires are very easy to change, airing them up thru the valve stem will be a hit or miss. I just bead blast all of them, saves time.
I made my own blaster, they are quite expensive to buy.
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Posted 11/25/2009 02:16 (#937383 - in reply to #937376)
Subject: RE: air blaster for tire replacement


southern saskatchewan
When you made your own did you use air or propane tanks? Which would be better? What size do like best? Some of the ones are 5 or 10 gallon? You just used a thin 2in pipe for the discharge? Anything esle to watch out for if I build one? TIA
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Chuck
Posted 11/25/2009 05:07 (#937403 - in reply to #937311)
Subject: RE: air blaster for tire replacement


Wolcottville,Indiana
Hi Bir, I made a bead tank from a old semi air tank, had plenty of places to put the air fittings and welded a 1" ball valve on it. from junk parts. The air tank converson would be a better choice.
My one ct, Chuck
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cjcaseih
Posted 11/25/2009 05:36 (#937407 - in reply to #937403)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement



IL
the bead blaster is important, and almost as important is the murphy's tire soap. Lubrication takes some of the back ache out of changing tires. There are several spoons that make difference to, I have one that has a goose neck end and is about 3' long that works really well, especially if you have a tube you don't want to pinch.
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bstclee
Posted 11/25/2009 07:00 (#937438 - in reply to #937407)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement


WC Wisconsin
I built my own tank cheater also but like everyone has said perfect weld. I still would like to know if a deal like this works.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=35027...

Edited by bstclee 11/25/2009 07:01
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ryanbraaten
Posted 11/25/2009 08:00 (#937492 - in reply to #937311)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement


eastern ND
the bead blaster works great but are expensive like everybody above has said. We made our own out of an air tank. CAUTION Make sure that you can weld before you think that you can make your own. But besides that we have never had any trouble and it works just as good as the ones that you can buy for $400.
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Hay Hud Ohio
Posted 11/25/2009 08:45 (#937548 - in reply to #937311)
Subject: RE: air blaster for tire replacement



SW Ohio
For some tires you can't be without it. Like others I built my own, have one 7 gallon tank and one 30 gallon.
I will add you need a place to fill it and A PRESSURE RELIEF VALVE. It really doesn't take more than 90 psi in the cheetah.
I suggest test filling anything home-made by placing tank behind explosion proof barrier and over filling beyond your valve setting.

PS Crisco vegetable oil makes the best tire lube, use a paint brush and be liberal.

Oh now I am off to fix neighbors 30.5
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JCSOK
Posted 11/25/2009 08:51 (#937560 - in reply to #937344)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement


After you smash the pipe flat, weld a flat washer to the top side to rest the pipe on the rim
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krantz
Posted 11/25/2009 09:32 (#937615 - in reply to #937311)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement


NM
Everyone around here puts a large ( inch or inch and a half ) hose on their compressor about twenty feet long with a ball valve on the end. Much safer faster and cheaper.
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tj_farms
Posted 11/25/2009 09:49 (#937648 - in reply to #937311)
Subject: RE: Works great !!!



Ohio
Mine has never failed me yet. Worth every penny, I never liked ether.

Ted CenOH
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Ed Boysun
Posted 11/25/2009 10:06 (#937670 - in reply to #937438)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement



Agent Orange: Friendly fire that keeps on burning.

I've seen them used and they're another tool in the arsenal but normally when there is enough space for the O-ring to so its thing, the bead Cheetah works too. These can come in real handy for some tires.

 Bead seaters

I bought the set when a tire shop went out of business, and they have collected dust for 20 years or so. I was about to throw them out but Franz told me I'd regret it, so I hung on to them. Ran into some 10 ply low profile implement tires this year, that the sidewalls were so stiff and the rims so wide, that the Cheetah would'nt flex them up enough to catch a bead. Drug the rings out, lube the soft inner rubber up with tire lube, press them down and ride them up as the tire takes air. Takes two guys to maintain even pressure as it comes up but the beads seated. Not sure what we'd have done if I didn't have the rings.

As I say; One more tool in the box.

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eddie
Posted 11/25/2009 10:13 (#937677 - in reply to #937407)
Subject: With a tube?


Why would you use a bead blaster if there is a tube in the tire?
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vbl
Posted 11/25/2009 14:02 (#937916 - in reply to #937615)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement


Can you provide more info? I'm fuzzy.
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801486
Posted 11/25/2009 14:46 (#937966 - in reply to #937311)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement


west central Iowa
My tubeless tire experience is limited to two 10.00x16 tractor fronts and two round baler tires. I just used a ratchet tie down strap aroung the tire to force the beads out and get them to hold.
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57ringo
Posted 11/26/2009 00:03 (#938699 - in reply to #937966)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement


Emporia, ks
You might email Drew at http://www.westcoastminichoppers.com/ I bought one from him Sept 08 for around $175 shipped. It looks and works perfect. Tell him Pat from Ks told you about him.
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krantz
Posted 11/27/2009 14:21 (#940599 - in reply to #937916)
Subject: Re: air blaster for tire replacement


NM
Just put a larger hose on your compressor. most have a large outlet on them. then a ball valve on hte end of the hose. It works just like a bead blaster. Think of the compressor tank as the blaster tank and the hose just connects it to the valve.
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