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Phil N
Posted 11/9/2009 13:16 (#918205)
Subject: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)


Here are a few random photos from the AgriTechnica show in Hannover, Germany. More will follow soon.

For anyone that wants to see a huge diversity in farm equipment, this is the show.......

The show has over 2200 exhibitors from 47 countries and a total floor space of 320,000M2 (790 acres). What's amazing to me is the money the different companies spend on their trade stands, but they expect over 300,000 visitors to attend.

Most of the equipment on display is different to what’s offered within the US. Either because the manufacturers are different, road transport restrictions restrict equipment sizes/specs, or as a result of the different crops/ crop technologies utilized in Europe.

Feel free to ask questions. I will try my best to answer.......

Phil N


http://www.needhamag.com/

Edited by Phil N 11/9/2009 13:36




(Claas 500hp Xerion.jpg)



(Claas mower on wall.jpg)



(Great Plains Sparton.jpg)



(Hazenbichler Drill.jpg)



(JD 30 series T.jpg)



(Robot Crop Sensor.jpg)



(European car.jpg)



(Euro JD sprayer with 4 wheel steer.jpg)



(Valmar air spreader.jpg)



(Kongskilde air spreader.jpg)



(Trelleborg tires.jpg)



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MillerTime
Posted 11/9/2009 14:52 (#918246 - in reply to #918205)
Subject: RE: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)


Manitoba, Canada
what is the point of the deere standing on its ass end? or did they just run out of room in their display area?
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TregellasFarms
Posted 11/9/2009 14:55 (#918248 - in reply to #918205)
Subject: RE: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)



Perryton, TX
Thats all cool looking stuff. Thanks for sharing


Blake
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Phil N
Posted 11/9/2009 14:57 (#918250 - in reply to #918205)
Subject: RE: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not any less dial-up friendly than 1st!)


The names of the products are listed below each photo.

Notice the new RoGator has 4 wheel steer, hydraulically adjustable clearance and adjustable tire pressure, all from the cab.....

Also, one manufacturer believed we would see autonomous tractors in 5 years (no drivers required). Not sure about this, RE liability etc.

Phil N

http://www.needhamag.com/


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(Inuma Sprayer.jpg)



(Rauch air spreader.jpg)



(Terion Tractor 360 hp.jpg)



(Terra Gator.jpg)



(Zunhammer Slurry Tanker.jpg)



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Phil N
Posted 11/9/2009 15:04 (#918252 - in reply to #918246)
Subject: RE: JD tractor on end?


Not sure MillerTime, my guess would be to show the new track suspension from the bottom and the layout of the cab - from the top down? (see the plexiglass roof of the cab).

It also appears everyone wants to display their equipment differently, to catch people's attention. So that may be part of it also. I can't imagine lifting it up on its rear end would be a 2 minute job. They probably had to drain some of the fluids to prevent puddles on the carpet too..........

Phil N

http://www.needhamag.com/

Edited by Phil N 11/9/2009 15:07




(JD on end 2.jpg)



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canadian farmer
Posted 11/9/2009 15:20 (#918264 - in reply to #918205)
Subject: RE: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)


Nice pics Phil. I was going to post some pics tonight, but you decided to post exactly the same pictures as me. haha. Are you working during the show, or just visiting. I was working at the CANAG stand for Aulari during the past two days, so I didn't get much time to visit yet (did halls 11-12-13 really quickly).

Nick
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Mike Shimek
Posted 11/9/2009 15:37 (#918274 - in reply to #918205)
Subject: Re: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)



High Springs, Florida
With all this automation, pretty soon the world will need just ONE farmer.
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valleyfarmer22
Posted 11/9/2009 15:39 (#918275 - in reply to #918205)
Subject: RE: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)


I went to this show that last two times they had it. There were 24 buildings full of equipment when i went. We were partners with and engineering company and had a both there. It is amazing the amount of people that come to see the equipment and the equipment you see over there we wont see here for two years.
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christianh
Posted 11/9/2009 15:46 (#918277 - in reply to #918205)
Subject: A request?



St. Gregor, SK, Canada
Great pics! Thanks!

I wonder if I could bother you for a couple special pics?

Cab from the Terrion ;)

There should be a Rostselmash Torum 740 there, and a rotor assembly - a pic would be nice!

There's also an electric/diesel hybrid MTZ/Belarus tractor there - could we get a pic & a cab pic?

Terrion or MTZ should have a track tractor there too!

Oh, and MF has the 9200 series "Delta" combine.

Only if it's not too much bother! Wish I could go, but still have lots to do here :(

-Chris



Edited by christianh 11/9/2009 15:50
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joeatdawn
Posted 11/9/2009 18:00 (#918331 - in reply to #918205)
Subject: We probably passed each other



I was out there all day today with my fiance. I was struck by the fact that in some ways the European equipment is way ahead and in other ways it is way behind. Very interesting though. John Deere green sure sells on both sides of the Atlantic!
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BCFENCE
Posted 11/9/2009 18:50 (#918363 - in reply to #918331)
Subject: Re: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)



That hay tedder/rake up on the wall is empresive.
THOMAS
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Plotski
Posted 11/9/2009 20:26 (#918448 - in reply to #918331)
Subject: RE: We probably passed each other


Massachusetts
joeatdawn - 11/9/2009 06:00

I was struck by the fact that in some ways the European equipment is way ahead and in other ways it is way behind.


You know, that is something that I've always thought as well. I have some Kverneland potato equipment, and in some ways it is incredibly clever, in other ways it is mid bogglingy dorky.
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ag_guy04
Posted 11/9/2009 20:40 (#918467 - in reply to #918205)
Subject: Re: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)


Morrison, IL
They sure do a nice job with the way things look! Lots of suits too! It would be neat to be there. Thanks for sharing!!!!
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DR J
Posted 11/9/2009 21:06 (#918501 - in reply to #918205)
Subject: Not one person wearing a cap...........................................nt


South central Ks.
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Land_Surfer
Posted 11/9/2009 22:38 (#918664 - in reply to #918467)
Subject: Re: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)


Agriculture in Europe is far more prestigious than it is in North America. At their shows, most factory reps wear suits and document who they talk to and actually listen to what the attendees have to say. Their products are displayed more creatively and professionally to better highlight their benefits and to be more eye-catching (CLAAS is trying this at the major shows over here). If you have not been to this show, forget Louisville and trek to Germany for an incredible "one-of-a-kind" farm show. I wish our National Farm Machinery Show was this professional.
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Jacob Bolson
Posted 11/9/2009 23:08 (#918726 - in reply to #918664)
Subject: North American vs. European shows


Iowa
Land_Surfer - 11/9/2009 22:38

Agriculture in Europe is far more prestigious than it is in North America. At their shows, most factory reps wear suits and document who they talk to and actually listen to what the attendees have to say. Their products are displayed more creatively and professionally to better highlight their benefits and to be more eye-catching (CLAAS is trying this at the major shows over here). If you have not been to this show, forget Louisville and trek to Germany for an incredible "one-of-a-kind" farm show. I wish our National Farm Machinery Show was this professional.

I could not agree more. After attending Agritechnica in 2007 and SIMA in 2009, our North American shows have a long ways to go. I know that the AEM is trying to build something on the order of Agritechnica with AgConnect but I am really struggling to see how they're going to make it fly.
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r1friend
Posted 11/10/2009 00:06 (#918803 - in reply to #918501)
Subject: Re: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)



Montrose, CO
The guy in the photo on the wall has a cap. American agriculture is still something to be proud of and it is very advanced. Something that makes me very proud to be a part of. Hopefully that pride will be past on to generations to come.
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Land_Surfer
Posted 11/10/2009 00:07 (#918806 - in reply to #918726)
Subject: Re: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)


Especially with the National Farm Machinery Show and Commodity Classic just one month after Ag Connect.

Agritechnica and Sima are professionally attended shows, unlike most of the US shows that are attended more for their "side" entertainment value. Deals are actually made and signed for big ticket items as Agritechnica and Sima. The most that gets purchased at the National Farm Machinery Show are commercial products and booze and pork chop sandwiches.
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Land_Surfer
Posted 11/10/2009 00:09 (#918809 - in reply to #918803)
Subject: Re: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)


It's also taken more for granted by its own farmers than any other country on Earth.
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95h
Posted 11/10/2009 00:50 (#918834 - in reply to #918252)
Subject: RE: LOL.. my first thought was..


Kittitas Co. Wa. State
"WOW brand new JD tracker n' it's already T.U.  !"   Laughing
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Jorn
Posted 11/10/2009 03:19 (#918860 - in reply to #918277)
Subject: Terrion



Denmark
Hello Christianh.

Here is a link to a short video from Agritechnica about the Terrion.
Do not let the Danish text at first scare you. The salesperson speaks English.

The Terrion barely made it in time for the exhibit. It is so far the only example in existence.
It has a Deutz engine, ZF stepless trans., Bosch fuel system and various other European components.
The design is Russian and according to my son, who reports for an Ag. media (the maker of the video) the tractor is fairly "rough" compared to general western standards. He also doubts its turning ability judged from the size of the front wheels and their distance from the frame.

I hope the link works.

Jorn

http://83.91.81.234/dlm/terrion_atm.wmv
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pudding
Posted 11/10/2009 04:58 (#918865 - in reply to #918205)
Subject: Re: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)


Somewhereville, Earth
phil..........ya tease..........is that the diesel electric belarus they talk about......the terrion

just answered me own question eh!

http://www.profi.com/images/news/657.jpg

ps. take brother luckett with ya to the show?......wonder if the porkchops taste different in germany

Edited by pudding 11/10/2009 05:04
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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 11/10/2009 07:03 (#918930 - in reply to #918806)
Subject: Re: Few photos from AgriTechnica Show in Germany (not very dial-up friendly)



Chebanse, IL.....

But, what about us less-classy farmers here in NE IL? We only wear suits to funerals & weddings (same?).

What if we kind of like our FPS & NFMS the way it is? Maybe tweaking small improvements, but please don't stand our tractors on their hind end or bolt equipment to a wall 20' in the air. Makes great photos, but hard to relate to in our everyday life.

Actually, if the non-N.A. folks would prefer to not meddle w/lower-class, bib overall wearing, stick carrying working people, that would be fine w/me. I think it's waaaaayyyyyy too crowded @ the NFMS (aka Louisville) anyway. I've asked why not something bigger in size for Louisville, but most of the sponsors suggest "cost considerations". However, it appears to me there are no "cost considerations" in the European show.

Phil, thanks for the great photos. Can you give us some type of daily costs for visitors that may be considering forgoing NFMS for the Agri show? Room rate?

Food prices?

Drink prices?

Evening tractor pull entry prices?

Fuel prices (local)

Thanks

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Jim
Posted 11/10/2009 19:21 (#919557 - in reply to #918664)
Subject: Agritechnica - Now let's just wait a minute!! (pics)


Driftless SW Wisconsin

As an agricultural equipment manufacturing person that has worked on both sides of the Atlantic for many years I have to say let's just hold on here!

Agriculture in most of Europe, as displayed very well at Agritechnica in Hanover and SIMA in Paris is very different from agriculture in the USA!  Not better nor worse just DIFFERENT!

Same thing for these shows compared to US shows - they are DIFFERENT!

In much of western Europe farms are much smaller and yet profitable because of local subsidies formerly known as the EC CAP (Common Agricultural Policy). In Switzerland for example on one end of the spectrum, it is not uncommon to see a full time farm with 20 cows on a 40 acres hillside (more accurately mountainside) farm with a nice well kept house and a newer Volvo in the driveway. And the Swiss like it this way. My wife and I were hiking with friends in this type of agricultural area just the other day. I'll add a picture below.

This does change as you get farther east from the original EU countries. However, in most of western Europe, prices paid for crops, prices paid for equipment, hours put on equipment and the equipment itself is often VERY different from the agricultural environment in the US where "market" prices are allowed to rise and fall as they will....

Traditionally European equipment has been very national with many smaller companies providing equipment to their own local farmers.

Agritechnica and SIMA are held only once every TWO years and each cover farmers in a much smaller geographic area than the major US shows which are held every year in many different areas of the country.

Distances in the US are FAR greater than in Europe around these shows.

The costs for a manufacturer to exhibit at these two large European shows is STAGGERING! But they have only a couple shows which occur only every two years....

This show system has met the needs of the European agricultural community over the years very well.

HOWEVER - if you look at the products being shown in Europe they are becoming much more like American equipment in the past few years.  European agriculture, especially in eastern Europe is becoming more like American agriculture. This is somewhat inevitable as European farmers in some if not all EU countries must become more efficient and productive as EU tax payers get tired of supporting farmers at the levels they have been in the past.

I could write a book on this but need to stop. My point is that European shows, like European agriculture, is DIFFERENT than agriculture in the US. I am not saying one or the other is better or worse, they are just different. And therefore the shows are also DIFFERENT.

We can learn from each other in both directions. Personally however as a manufacturer, engineer, farmer and enthusiast of shows on both sides of the Atlantic I say vive la difference.

US and European farm shows are different for reasons. Let's enjoy them for what they are.

Here are two pictures I snapped the other day of a Swiss farmer dragging a pasture spreading manure piles and some of my family hiking. We went over for a family wedding so snapped more family than ag pictures (for a change!).

I don't want Agritechnica to look like Louisville, nor do I want Louisville to look like Agritechnica. jmho.

Jim at Dawn

PS - my dream is STILL that one day I will be able to attend Louisville and actually tour the show!



Edited by Jim 11/10/2009 19:36




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