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MN | Has anyone rigged up a way to tie into John Deere's factory 1/2 width planter disconnect electric clutch to turn on and off 1/2 or the whole planter with GPS?
I'm not much of an electrical engineer or I should really say that I don't attempt any wiring myself. One would think it wouldn't be too difficult to use say an ez-boom to connect to the 1/2 width disconnect that comes factory on John Deere planters so that it would shut off automatically as you entered the headlands of a field. We really don't have too many fields that aren't square so it is hard to justify seed savings by going with the air or electric aftermarket clutches. I talked to Tru Count and they don't have anything that would be a nice retrofit for a factory 1/2 width disconnect. Maybe it would take another small box in the cab and then retrofit to the folding and clutch control box.
Anybody else thinking that it would be nice to have something like this until you went with the individual clutches eventually?
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Ladoga, IN, United States, North America, Earth | It is not hard at all to wire up an Ez-boom into electric clutches. You can either run new wires back to the clutches, or find them in the wire harness running to the switch box. All you will need to do then is T into the wire going to each clutch and you'll be set.
Should be noted that you need to make sure the clutches are in good working order and aren't pulling more than 16 amps. That is all the Ez-Boom can handle. You could wire up a simple relay system to take the power draw away from the Ez-boom. |
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MN | Thanks for the reply mcline. I'm glad it sounds possible and would be a cheaper option than buying all new clutches. Thinking more about it, we already have a Seed Sense 20/20 and it will be capable of running seed clutches next year. I would think it would be of similar design structure as an EZ-boom, so would be also capable of running our John Deere 1780 factory electric clutches. Do you see any problems with that set-up?
If you would be willing to set-up the relay and give me more specific directions or diagrams to get this done I would be willing to make it worth your time. Might be something that others would be interested in too!
Edited by case14 9/7/2009 16:59
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| My only concern with this setup is that the OEM clutches are not made to turn on and off that much and may burn out quicker. |
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Madision County, IL | We connected our half-width disconnect clutches on our JD 1789 to the AgLeader swath control product. We had no issues and it worked as expected.
Reliability of clutches doesn't seem to be an issue at this point.
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Ladoga, IN, United States, North America, Earth | dheitz - 9/7/2009 17:42
My only concern with this setup is that the OEM clutches are not made to turn on and off that much and may burn out quicker.
I had one on our 36 row planter go out this year. It was its 4th year if I remember right. The only reason it went bad is it got some corrosion on it. Thats on a Kinze. I know on a Kinze the clutches they put on for the electric are the same ones tru-count sells for the electric clutches. Should not have a problem with reliability. |
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Ladoga, IN, United States, North America, Earth | case14 - 9/7/2009 16:55
Thanks for the reply mcline. I'm glad it sounds possible and would be a cheaper option than buying all new clutches. Thinking more about it, we already have a Seed Sense 20/20 and it will be capable of running seed clutches next year. I would think it would be of similar design structure as an EZ-boom, so would be also capable of running our John Deere 1780 factory electric clutches. Do you see any problems with that set-up?
If you would be willing to set-up the relay and give me more specific directions or diagrams to get this done I would be willing to make it worth your time. Might be something that others would be interested in too!
It isn't hard to do it all. Just need some simple automotive relays and some wire. I'll see if I can't make up a diagram for it. |
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MN | That would be great if I could get a look at what the wiring might look like. I'm open to the easiest and most reliable why of wiring it. Ive looked at some automotive relays online and like I said in the first post I almost need directions and diagrams dummy proof, as wiring is not my specialty. I'm also glad the reliability of these OEM clutches is being addressed here in the thread. |
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| Deere sells a harness that ties into the half width disconnect, to do exactly what you are wanting to do. However, this harness plugs into a GS rate controller thru an ISO harness and is controlled thru either a 1800 or 2600 display. How you get this to work with an ezboom??? I'm sure its possible though.
I would think you would need some control module like trimble makes to control the trucount clutches.
Agleader may have something useful.
Or buy 1800 with a GS RC and SCP and presto!! |
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Ladoga, IN, United States, North America, Earth | The new firmware in the Ez-guide 500 allows you to invert the polarity in the Ez-boom now. You no longer need the inverter box that trimble sells to do clutches.
With an Ez-boom you can just take a simple raven boom harness and use Boom 1 and Boom 2 to T into the Deere harness. |
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automatic 1/2 width planter shutoff ideas
