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| A while back I posted a thread about harvesting costs and also another one asking about the differences between a 1680 and an 8820 . I've decided that I'm still interested in getting my feet wet, but I'm thinking about a lower risk approach. A 1480 can be had much cheaper. If the logistics work in a poorer manner than I anticipate, I can just pull out and let the custom harvesters finish up. Same if it breaks down. I'm planning on only harvesting 215 acres for the first harvest with it at the most. The harvesters will cut the vast majority. What kind of questions should I be asking people when I call them about their 1480? What kind of a corn head would be good to find for a 1480? How does it handle an 8 row (30") head? (guessing maybe 130 bushel corn this year on that field). I wouldn't mind running a 4 row I guess (would I be running corn over with the tires?) if it can't handle an 8. 6 really isn't a very good option for a 16 row planter although we planted with RTK so I guess it would be bearable.
What is it's capacity in bu/hour in corn? What is it's capacity in bu/hour in wheat?
Does the standard unloading auger have enough length on it to unload onto a graincart with a 20' header on the go comfortably? How big of a graincart would I be able to fit under it? I was thinking along the lines of a Kinze 840 or 1040. Overkill, but we would use it at other times of the year for other things as well. Does anyone know of someone that does good maintenance that would be interested in getting rid of theirs? Has anyone recently traded one off that they took care of and know which dealer lot it's sitting on? If you have any other thoughts on the 1480, I'd appreciate them as well. Thanks.
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nc nebraska butte | Handle an eight row easy in 130 the old days handle 180 at 3.5 to 4.Getting alot of years on them but still will do the job.Unloader will reach.Might want to even look at a 1680 if available. |
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| 1480 good machine. Just make sure you look it over well rasp bars, worn augers rotor ears grian tank floor where the tank augers & vertical auger meet if they sat out alot the grain left in the tank rust the floor out in that area. Grain then flows down into the grain augers below the rotor. look at rear axle lots have been welded and I dont know why we have never broken ours when we had it. a 1680 would also be good machine few more improvements. bigger clean grian auger ours updated with crossflow fan oilbath unload gear box. most hd header reverser could get a chopper, rock trap, cummins engine later models last of them had long seives to. |
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Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND | There was an option for the 30 ft header to replace the end cap belting on the unload auger with a rubber spout, it shoots the grain another 2-3 ft sideways. Not an expensive part as I recall.
The only pic I have of the part is on my 1482.
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| We've run a 1480 for several years now. Unloading on the go with a 25' head isn't a problem. We pack an 8 row corn head with ours. Unloading on the ends, about the best I've done in good corn is 1000 BPA, not sure how it would do unloading consistently in a grain cart. I've shelled over 200 BPA corn with it and it ain't a speed demon at that, but it will work. Seems 2.5 mph or so in that good of corn. Unloading Auger height and etc has never been a problem. They are good ole combines, slightly underpowered compared to today's machines, but you can do a LOT of upgrades to them. I probably couldn't even start to lest all the 2188 and newer parts we've put on ours. Bestest thing I ever did was put a HILLCO fan kit in it. I don't think you can get them anymore, so the squirrell cage fan update would be good. |
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KS | My neighbors ran 2 1480s and a 9500 until this last wheat harvest when one 1480 burned, you really need to watch under the engine for fires, chaff gets built up, and throw a hydraulic oil leak in the mix and it takes the volunteer fire department to put it out, we didn't have any wind or else it would have set the whole wheat field on fire and most of a half section of grass north. We paid close attention and it seemed like the 1480 with the good operator was cutting just a little more than the 9500 who had a good operator in it too, don't tell the boss though in the 9500. For most of the harvest before the fire maybe half the day both 1480s would be running at the same time, otherwise one would be down. The couple of days both were running without a hiccup we got a lot done.
A friend of mine has a 9500 with a 6 row head and in irrigated corn yielding 215bu/acre was going over 5 mph, I don't remember the exact mph that has been a few years ago, so if a 1480 does similar to a 9500 in corn, like wheat, then it ought to run an 8 row with no problems in 130bu corn. My neighbors had close to 6000 hours on one 1480 and I think 5000 or something on the other. They had to replace a transmission, got a good used one out of a salvage machine for 1000.00. Parts seem cheap for them, but not close, had to go to abilene I think to get the transmission. I helped work on them a little bit this year, and it wasn't bad at all, but I don't have much to compare it to. Capacity on the 1480 in wheat was 200 bushels every 40 minutes so 300 bushels an hour. This was in terraced up ground, if yours is flat it will be better.
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KS | A couple of times we unloaded on the go when we had flat ground. It was with a 24' header and no auger extension from the looks of it. I was in the 7800 with no duals and there was plenty of room, unloaded into a 650 JD cart. |
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SW Saskatchewan | Still run a 1983 1480 with our 2188's and one 2388.
Every update on the axial flows has made them better, you can install "most"updates when replacing parts but check your needs if some are worth while.
My preference is for at least an 82 model with b series 466-more power and by then they have the electro-hydraulics.
worst wear out to have to fix in field is wore out vertical auger in the unload, most common replace item is the bushings on shoe- need to be kept TIGHT.
Old prairie wheat combines had two wear areas- picking up swaths or cutting pulses caused wear on the cone-later cones were better and could always be patched in the field with bondex. Other was the pickup header allowed a lot of weight on rear axle and rough ground would cause the rear axle to fail. Some IH axles suffered from -"one side welds so they broke too.
PS: Worst is to break a final drive axle and drop the combine on a wheel- I think Jon has a post that pretty well lays out how to avoid bad axles.
5000 hrs is easily reachable- without having ever reached the question is it worth it to replace this item. |
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| Still running my 79 1480, just over 5000 hours now, rebuilt engine 2 times, and all new internals with enough upgrades to make it almost exactly a 21/23 88 inside now, they are a good reliable machine, can easily handle a 8 row head in corn, though you wont be going fast, I have a Harvestec 6x30 on mine, simply because I plant 6x30 and makes it easier to road. I have not tried unloading on the go, usually a one man show around here, but I think it would work ok.
Watch out for the final drives, luckily I have had a problem yet, look up other posts on here, lots to learn about the final drives.
Mine is 2wd, somtimes wish for 4wd, but probaly would end up in more trouble somedays with it.
I had been planning on replacing it, but this year going to go over it with a fine tooth comb, maybe even upgrade the finals, its been good for me and for my acreage cant justify replacing it.
This year put 350 acres of wheat through it, another 75 acres of oats to do, about 150 of soys, maybe more if someone calls me up, and 260 of corn. I dont set records for speed but get the job done.
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| Spend the extra 10-15K and get a 1680. Some of the early ones are coming down in the low to mid 20K range. Make sure it has the cummins and knewer squirlcage fan(I think 89 models and up). |
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| Thanks for the input everyone. Lots of good info. I'd like to get a 1680, but I don't even know if harvesting our own crops is something I'm at all interested in. I just want to try a small inexpensive combine on one field and see how it goes. I won't lose much on something like that if I decide to get out of it after the season is over. Thanks again everyone. |
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