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New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770
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ZX 210
Posted 12/29/2023 13:15 (#10547502)
Subject: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


Dauphin Manitoba
We have a CR 9070 with some upgrades. MAD concaves, precision rotors, and tuned. It rips pretty decent. But it seems to be slightly underbuilt and all the belts are kinda annoying. Definitely hasn't been "trouble free" but isn't bad if we go through it thoroughly in winter. Also like how easy it is to keep the losses down. How would we like one of the other brands. My "general" understanding is that new Holland has big capacity and more down time and the Deere would be less capacity and less down time. And the case is maybe kind of in between there?? I've looked at a few of the 9770 and they look way simpler under the side panels then a new Holland. This would be to replace an older higher houred CX880. So we aren't really needing more capacity.. we have all three dealers half hour away. What you guys think? Get the Deere or case and have at least a right to argue after? Lol. Wanting to stay right around a 2010 so yes S series are out for us. This is in wheat and canola. And we really try and keep our canola losses down. Which is alot harder than wheat..
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PeaKing
Posted 12/29/2023 14:51 (#10547618 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


West central ND
I have owned a cr9070 and a jd9870. The NH will have much more capacity than the JD in wheat. You will have a cleaner sample with no cracked kernels. The JD will be easier to set and do a better job in canola. After running a NH you will plug the feed accelerator or the discharge beater cutting wheat. You think you should be able to go faster. I think JD purposely designed them to plug up to keep you from overloading the seive. NH has about 2000 more sq. Inches of seive area. The other weak point on the JD is the chain drive on the feeder house. If you use the reverse very much you will have trouble with the chain. The NH reverser is the best on the market. Hydraulic reverse or hydraulic forward to feed in the slug slowly.
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ryan elias
Posted 12/29/2023 14:57 (#10547624 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


chortitz, manitoba
All solid machines. Pick the brand whichever dealer you get along with. Hours, overall condition, your parts and knowledge.
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dunlogon
Posted 12/29/2023 15:17 (#10547645 - in reply to #10547624)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


Stayner, Ontario
Stay with New Holland.
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wire farms
Posted 12/29/2023 16:30 (#10547729 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


Nebraska
a 9770 would be a big downgrade in capacity and operator comforts from a CR 9070, and i'm a green guy but have a CR9060 combine.

What do you mean downtime with a CR? crap happens to all of them and the belts have never been an issue for me, replaced a few but they've never broke while in the field.

id rather have 2 of the same machines so you can switch heads around and keep going if something major does happen.
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Farms With CASE
Posted 12/29/2023 17:13 (#10547774 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770



North Liberty and South Bend, Indiana
For those crops I'd highly recommend the CR.
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bob123
Posted 12/29/2023 17:31 (#10547805 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


S-C Manitoba, Canada

Which belts are you having trouble with on the Cr? I own 2 cr970s and also worked at a JD dealer for 2 winters and from what i saw there the Jd's needed more money in and had more large catastrophic failures then Nh does (engines, gearcases) but im sure theres some survivor bias with all the worst jobs coming into the dealer and the combines that didnt need much just getting done on the farm. I dont see you gaining any uptime with Jd unless youd be getting a better dealer or something like that. I still do combine repairs for others in the winter and i feel like the case needs the least man hours of repairs of any, but the repairs they do need generally cost more then NH



Edited by bob123 12/29/2023 17:33
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69roadrunner
Posted 12/29/2023 17:32 (#10547808 - in reply to #10547774)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


North of Iowa
I am sure you will find that the CIH and JD are no better for repairs. Grain sample will be the best out of the CR, CIH then the JD.
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JohnW
Posted 12/29/2023 18:52 (#10547921 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


NW Washington
The CIH and the NH are made in the same factory and they have a lot of common parts and designs. For your crops, I would go for the NH because of the twin rotors, no feed accelerator and more even loading of the chaffer and sieve.
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Farms With CASE
Posted 12/29/2023 19:36 (#10547994 - in reply to #10547921)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770



North Liberty and South Bend, Indiana
Axial's and CR's are no longer built in the same factories. 99% sure most of the CR's are built on Belgium and Axial's in Grand Island
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Tlane
Posted 12/29/2023 19:50 (#10548009 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


Humboldt IA
I’ve been away from the CR’s for a few years but I’m fairly certain that the total belt/chain count on a CR only exceeds the belt/chain count on an STS by 1. But it looks more intimidating because when you open the side panels, it’s pretty much all there. Just a couple behind the shield on the feeder and the chopper belt.
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prairieguy
Posted 12/29/2023 19:55 (#10548021 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


The eastern part of the more tropical Dakota
When I get out of my 9060 and into a 70 series, it feels like a step backwards. NH are grain savers, the creature comforts are a lot better, has more features. I would call them even on the reliability front.
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mschultz
Posted 12/29/2023 19:56 (#10548022 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


Oregon
Why complicate things? Replace the CX with another CR so you have a common set of parts on hand. They are all going to break down and they all require reconditioning. So if you like the CR and you know the CR, stick with it.
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bob123
Posted 12/29/2023 21:01 (#10548125 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


S-C Manitoba, Canada

Maybe look for a 9080 if you want a little upgrade? Bigger engine, reinforced rotor drive, and it might have an extra rib on main belts off the engine gear case(cant quite remember forsure on that though). Does your current 9070 have the high speed rotors? That makes a difference in cereals. Almost all other parts would be common between the two



Edited by bob123 12/29/2023 21:02
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genesis
Posted 12/30/2023 03:22 (#10548327 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


England
very surprised that you talk about cr having a lot of downtime
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yam
Posted 12/30/2023 11:16 (#10548785 - in reply to #10547502)
Subject: RE: New Holland CR9070 vs Case 8120 vs John Deere 9770


MN
Can reverse the rotor in a 8120 if you slug it good-
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