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Luthmanfarms
Posted 11/6/2023 19:43 (#10471499)
Subject: Hopper bottom trailers


Which trailers do you prefer ...Timpte or Wilson and why. Is there anything to look for specifically that makes one better than the other.TIA.
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strawguys
Posted 11/6/2023 19:46 (#10471503 - in reply to #10471499)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Own both. Prefer the strap doors on the Wilson’s. Other than that pretty similar. Wilson is one side sheet the timpte is multiple sheets. We’ve had to work on the timpte traps a lot for it being a 15 imo.
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ptee65
Posted 11/6/2023 19:49 (#10471506 - in reply to #10471499)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


West Point, IL
I like the new timpte trailers we have. They actually have the trap trap doors
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jd4930
Posted 11/6/2023 20:16 (#10471547 - in reply to #10471503)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Central ND
strawguys - 11/6/2023 19:46

Own both. Prefer the strap doors on the Wilson’s. Other than that pretty similar. Wilson is one side sheet the timpte is multiple sheets. We’ve had to work on the timpte traps a lot for it being a 15 imo.


Our Wilson's are all 4' side panels
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AGB1640
Posted 11/6/2023 20:24 (#10471562 - in reply to #10471499)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Southeast PA
Eby Generation seem to be good trailers so far, haven't had them as long as Wilson's and timptes, but the eby's front and and rear structure is better imho. Galvanized and big channel instead of painted tube. Roller doors also have about 2" greaseable poly rollers instead of tiny 25$ bearings or straps that you have to crank half a turn either way to make them move. One thing I'm not sold on is the sides panels are glued on. Had a trailking trailer that we had panel trouble with, but maybe these are better.
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Aaron SEIA
Posted 11/6/2023 20:43 (#10471588 - in reply to #10471499)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


I hate straps. Maybe it's because the trailers at work are wore out. Just a dumb idea.
AaronSEIA
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Tomcat
Posted 11/6/2023 20:50 (#10471598 - in reply to #10471499)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers



Ludington/Manistee MI area

Other than a crappy paint job the design of a Jet is my favorite.  Not a fan of straps at all. 



Edited by Tomcat 11/6/2023 20:51
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ryan elias
Posted 11/6/2023 20:51 (#10471600 - in reply to #10471547)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


chortitz, manitoba
Must be optional. Neighbors 42ft is one piece sides
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jd4930
Posted 11/6/2023 20:57 (#10471610 - in reply to #10471600)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Central ND
Must be short sides? Ours are all 84-90" sides, I think it's standard on them, optional on shorter side wall
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ryan elias
Posted 11/6/2023 21:11 (#10471628 - in reply to #10471610)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


chortitz, manitoba
78"
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farmerbroun
Posted 11/6/2023 21:35 (#10471661 - in reply to #10471506)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers



How do those work at an auger ? I thought guys here have said they are hard to get set right for what the auger will take.

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jd4930
Posted 11/6/2023 21:59 (#10471687 - in reply to #10471661)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Central ND
I hate the Wilson straps at the auger
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jd8850
Posted 11/6/2023 22:13 (#10471702 - in reply to #10471598)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Roseglen, North Dakota
The strap thing got popular because every brand of roller trap seizes up after time. Not a fun job to fix.
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Steve
Posted 11/6/2023 22:16 (#10471704 - in reply to #10471687)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


jd4930 - 11/6/2023 21:59

I hate the Wilson straps at the auger


Why? They work fine for me. We shortened the crank for auger unloading ..traps work easy so don't need the big crank handle
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jd8850
Posted 11/6/2023 22:16 (#10471705 - in reply to #10471503)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Roseglen, North Dakota
Youve been able to get separate panels on Wilson for at least 15 years. Not sure why they even offer one side panels.
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jd4930
Posted 11/6/2023 22:44 (#10471726 - in reply to #10471704)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Central ND
I don't like the slack between forward and reverse, and yes they are adjusted properly.
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dvswia
Posted 11/7/2023 05:01 (#10471804 - in reply to #10471499)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


sw corner ia.
my timpte is an '83. I had to rebuild the rack and pinion slides once about 10 years ago. maybe they are made differently now, but this trailer has been trouble free.
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1973
Posted 11/7/2023 05:08 (#10471811 - in reply to #10471705)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


SW. IOWA
Believe it or not there are people who like the look of a one piece panel vs a splice.
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kws3121
Posted 11/7/2023 05:09 (#10471812 - in reply to #10471499)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers



Frost,Mn
I think Wilson and Timpte department managers have breakfast together, pricing, weight, design,etc,they are so similar except for the trap opening. Both operate easy enough but straps can build up with snow or slop and not work well in winter and Timpte will start rust jacking after 10 years where rack on slides meet drive gears. Both set the standard in the industry. I just ordered a new Timpte and they are out until next May.
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JTN
Posted 11/7/2023 06:43 (#10471915 - in reply to #10471812)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


MN
We got wilsons with big trap doors and 2 speed gear box both were bought used, the big doors open hard and you have to walk the swing hopper a lot to get empty....lesson learned,wont do that again.
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caseih9280
Posted 11/7/2023 07:01 (#10471942 - in reply to #10471726)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


NE SoDak
Wish i had your problems lol
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jd4930
Posted 11/7/2023 07:03 (#10471944 - in reply to #10471942)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Central ND
Next ones will be rack and pinion, I guess im not that old and feeble yet that I can't open them, it appears im not the only one that doesn't like them by this thread.......
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caseih9280
Posted 11/7/2023 07:03 (#10471946 - in reply to #10471598)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


NE SoDak
You & a a ron need to go crank traps at an elevator for a day & then you will have a different tune!!
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jd4930
Posted 11/7/2023 07:04 (#10471947 - in reply to #10471946)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Central ND
If your rack and pinion open that hard maybe you need to step up your maintenance program? Can open our Wilson and timptes with 1 hand......
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Steve
Posted 11/7/2023 07:21 (#10471968 - in reply to #10471942)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


caseih9280 - 11/7/2023 07:01

Wish i had your problems lol


Right? Lol. That little bit of slack in the straps has never been an issue for me.
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jd4930
Posted 11/7/2023 07:24 (#10471972 - in reply to #10471968)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Central ND
Amd neither has turning a rack and pinion for us.......see how that works? I'm not asking you to open our trailers, just saying why I don't like them, my apologies.....
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mmaddox
Posted 11/7/2023 08:14 (#10472051 - in reply to #10471915)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Think you will find more differences in years, options, model, than the name on the trailer.
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German Shepherd
Posted 11/7/2023 08:21 (#10472064 - in reply to #10471946)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


caseih9280 - 11/7/2023 07:03 You & a a ron need to go crank traps at an elevator for a day & then you will have a different tune!!
A little work on the traps does wonders.   I blow the dirt out once a year and spray graphite on and it makes a world of difference.   So does greasing where needed.   I've even gotten comments from the elevator crew on how easy my traps open.

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JTN
Posted 11/7/2023 08:28 (#10472080 - in reply to #10471947)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


MN
jd4930 - 11/7/2023 07:04

If your rack and pinion open that hard maybe you need to step up your maintenance program? Can open our Wilson and timptes with 1 hand......


New gear boxes,trap doors removed and cleaned this summer....Door size is 35" wide by 48"
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jd4930
Posted 11/7/2023 08:38 (#10472097 - in reply to #10472080)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Central ND
That's the same doors we have on our Wilson's, I ordered them for more capacity for flowers
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bob123
Posted 11/7/2023 11:16 (#10472271 - in reply to #10471499)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


S-C Manitoba, Canada

we have both

Wilson pros
-better internal and external ladders
-auto lift axles
-less bracing that catches on swing augers 
-michaels add on electric traps/tarps are much better then factory timpte 
Cons:
-flat shelf at rear
-hopper doesn't empty as completely
aluminum sides flex alot more, not sure what the long term effects will be of that on all the rivets

Timpte pros
-cleans out completely with no sweeping
-can adjust individual axle pressures to fine tune weights
-no flat shelf at rear
Cons:
-no option for auto lift axles and its illegal in manitoba to have a switch for it in cab
-factory hydraulic traps have alot of lag, no %open readout, and its easy to hit the wrong hopper open, has happened more then once in a rush
-have the smallest hopper opening option and its too wide to use to fill air drill auger
-hydraulic openers stick out a long way from side of trailer making it hard to get close enough to swing auger to not need to move semi a second time
-came with a bunch of factory finish blemishes and timpte has given zero ****s about it on a brand new trailer
-only half enough steps on the inside of hopper, and its really slippery inside which is what makes cleanout so good, but access sucks, need to be pretty spry to go inside it
-air control box is really annoying to get into, which you have to do twice every load because of no auto axle lift
-electric tarp blocks outside ladder access 


I like the Wilson more then the timpte, but if you are just hauling into a pit and not an auger the timpte is fine. i would definitely not put the timpte hydraulic openers on it though, Michaels is the way to go. I prefer the castleton steel trailer over both of them though




Edited by bob123 11/7/2023 11:19
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jd4930
Posted 11/7/2023 11:22 (#10472281 - in reply to #10472271)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Central ND
bob123 - 11/7/2023 11:16

we have both

Wilson pros
-better internal and external ladders
-auto lift axles
-less bracing that catches on swing augers 
-michaels add on electric traps/tarps are much better then factory timpte 
Cons:
-flat shelf at rear
-hopper doesn't empty as completely
aluminum sides flex alot more, not sure what the long term effects will be of that on all the rivets

Timpte pros
-cleans out completely with no sweeping
-can adjust individual axle pressures to fine tune weights
-no flat shelf at rear
Cons:
-no option for auto lift axles and its illegal in manitoba to have a switch for it in cab
-factory hydraulic traps have alot of lag, no %open readout, and its easy to hit the wrong hopper open, has happened more then once in a rush
hopper opening is too wide to use to fill air drill auger
-hydraulic openers stick out a long way from side of trailer making it hard to get close enough to swing auger to not need to move semi a second time
-came with a bunch of factory finish blemishes and timpte has given zero ****s about it on a brand new trailer
-only half enough steps on the inside of hopper, and its really slippery inside which is what makes cleanout so good, but access sucks, need to be pretty spry to go inside it
-air control box is really annoying to get into, which you have to do twice every load because of no auto axle lift
-electric tarp blocks outside ladder access 


I like the Wilson more then the timpte, but if you are just hauling into a pit and not an auger the timpte is fine. i would definitely not put the timpte hydraulic openers on it though, Michaels is the way to go. I prefer the castleton steel trailer over both of them though





Just a couple questions, are both trailers the same length? Our 43' Wilson's and timpte have no shelf at the back? How can you say the hydraulic openers stick out, there is nothing to stick out? I am not impressed with the 'lag' on the timpte hydraulic either but someone will come along and say that's a dumb problem or opinion
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bob123
Posted 11/7/2023 11:33 (#10472295 - in reply to #10472281)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


S-C Manitoba, Canada

i believe they are the same length, shelf might have to do with trap size and trailer heights. they dont have a crank to stick out but the bottom of the hopper is wider and the hydraulic cylinders sit beside the hopper opening yet, its definitely noticeable when trying to get the swing auger to hit both hoppers without moving semis. the lag can be the difference between plugging an auger or not, so not trivial to me. the buttons on the hopper have less lag in the remote but if i wanted to stand beside the trailer in the dust i could use a hand crank then 

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jd4930
Posted 11/7/2023 11:49 (#10472312 - in reply to #10472295)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Central ND
I agree 100% on the lag time, I was basically told I am an idiot above thought because I don't like the Wilson strap opener. I guess we much prefer the hydraulic opener over the electric for swing auger clearance. I do like that Wilson offers multiple trap sizes
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bob123
Posted 11/7/2023 11:58 (#10472322 - in reply to #10472312)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


S-C Manitoba, Canada

we only unload with the auger to the right of the semi, so the Michaels on the left side are never in the way

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jd4930
Posted 11/7/2023 12:01 (#10472326 - in reply to #10472322)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers


Central ND
We do too, I misspoke when I said swing auger, I meant the drill auger. Our guys much prefer the electric for harvest, but like the clearance of the hydraulic for drill fill
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MN Dean
Posted 11/7/2023 21:47 (#10472979 - in reply to #10471562)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers



I have the first load on mine tonight. I was impressed with how it is built. Didn't have a kernel bounce out loading without the tarp straps in the way. My shoulders are worn out and the Timpte made them much worse. I rebuilt traps and they were starting to get worse again. Not that they ever were acceptable. The Jet trailers I have open easy and don't bother. I think that the Eby's will be similar. I will know tomorrow.

Edited by MN Dean 11/10/2023 14:30
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MN Dean
Posted 11/10/2023 14:28 (#10476631 - in reply to #10472979)
Subject: RE: Hopper bottom trailers



Yes. Eby traps open easily loaded!

Edited by MN Dean 11/10/2023 14:30
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