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jdmatt15
Posted 9/28/2023 13:19 (#10419913)
Subject: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Combine seems to be shaking/vibrating/bumping around a lot more than it should. I put on new chopper knives and it will be getting balanced, but I’m not sure that’s the issue. I’ve put the rotor in neutral and ran the combine and didn’t make any difference, same story with the feed accelerator. Nothing is missing, and all bearings turn freely and feel tight. Any clues on what else it might be or where to look? The John Deere techs didn’t find anything obvious either
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1820-10
Posted 9/28/2023 13:39 (#10419934 - in reply to #10419913)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


se montana
Shaker arms , broken or bolts out of them...
Or the side plate to sieve or chaffer broken
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JD 9400
Posted 9/28/2023 13:44 (#10419939 - in reply to #10419934)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Southern Pa.
You can always run it without the chopper running for testing purposes as well.

ETA.

Feederhouse on or off make any difference??

Edited by JD 9400 9/28/2023 13:47
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kgbarnett22
Posted 9/28/2023 13:44 (#10419940 - in reply to #10419913)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


NE Indiana
Could be stuff stuck inside the discharge beater. Also make sure the bubble up auger isn't bouncing around up there. While harvesting wheat this summer I noticed our bubble auger was bouncing around like crazy when empty. Never really thought the combine had much shake to it but after changing that auger its way smoother. Everything looked fine on it, but they are balanced with a lot of heavy weights and I'm guessing we just lost one at some point.
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in-too-deep
Posted 9/28/2023 13:48 (#10419941 - in reply to #10419913)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


56676
Dust/chaff piled up inside of pulleys? Probably where it's hardest to see.
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JD 9400
Posted 9/28/2023 13:49 (#10419942 - in reply to #10419940)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Southern Pa.
kgbarnett22 - 9/28/2023 14:44

Could be stuff stuck inside the discharge beater. Also make sure the bubble up auger isn't bouncing around up there. While harvesting wheat this summer I noticed our bubble auger was bouncing around like crazy when empty. Never really thought the combine had much shake to it but after changing that auger its way smoother. Everything looked fine on it, but they are balanced with a lot of heavy weights and I'm guessing we just lost one at some point.


You can run it without the discharge beater running for testing purposes as well.
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JR6180
Posted 9/28/2023 13:52 (#10419947 - in reply to #10419913)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Niagara County Western NY
Had that happen once to mine, it was the chopper, I had put in a mix of new knives from Shoup and John Deere. I found the chopper was vibrating a lot. Pulled the Shoup knives and put in all John Deere knives and it resolved my issue.
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jdmatt15
Posted 9/28/2023 13:53 (#10419949 - in reply to #10419934)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


I checked all the shaker arms, they are all good and snug, most of them only a couple years old.
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jdmatt15
Posted 9/28/2023 13:54 (#10419951 - in reply to #10419940)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


I had tightened up the auger on top just a little to be sure, and it seems just fine. I’ll look in the discharge beater, what’s the best way to get at it?
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jdmatt15
Posted 9/28/2023 13:56 (#10419958 - in reply to #10419939)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Ran without the feederhouse too, didn’t seem to make much difference. Whatever it is, it’s making the steering wheel/column rattle around unless I hold on firmly
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Thud
Posted 9/28/2023 14:09 (#10419972 - in reply to #10419913)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Near-north Ontario, French River
Corn or beans? Headers check out fine? Maybe a bent cross auger?
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jdmatt15
Posted 9/28/2023 14:44 (#10420009 - in reply to #10419972)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Soybeans. The header isn’t perfect by any means, but the shake/vibration is definitely still there when not running the header
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Tiberius
Posted 9/28/2023 14:47 (#10420011 - in reply to #10419947)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


East Central Missouri
If that is your problem, I weighed A & I knives that I put in a 9600, put them in groups of three of similar weight. I even put the lighter groups in the center of the chopper with the heaviest groups on the outer edges. Worked for me.
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Wotf8
Posted 9/28/2023 14:52 (#10420016 - in reply to #10420009)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Check out the discharge beater for sure. Always best to pop the belt off it and run combine, then you know right away your at the right spot. Blow the beater out until clean. That said it could be nervous things, could be the u-joint at the 90 degree gearbox on the primary counter shaft. Could be a belt etc..
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Gc Grain
Posted 9/28/2023 15:33 (#10420052 - in reply to #10419913)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Make sure the big nut is tight on the header drive pulley hanging off of the gearbox behind the cab.
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AGB
Posted 9/28/2023 15:36 (#10420057 - in reply to #10419913)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Mid-Michigan
Check the drive shaft right behind the cab.
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silbea
Posted 9/28/2023 15:56 (#10420077 - in reply to #10420057)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


What AGB said, sounds like power shaft
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jdmatt15
Posted 9/28/2023 17:30 (#10420198 - in reply to #10420077)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Just checked, there is zero slop in the shaft. I’m beginning to think it’s a front rotor bearing. While harvesting today it was bad enough to shake the steering wheel in my hand
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Justdave
Posted 9/28/2023 17:50 (#10420225 - in reply to #10420198)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Kansas
We had that bearing go out once i noticed a growling noise before it went all the way out
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mschultz
Posted 9/28/2023 19:32 (#10420326 - in reply to #10420198)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Oregon
I agree with justdave, in my experience they tend to growl first. But its easy to diagnose- pull the front cover and check it for heat.

Impossible to say from here, but after you have eliminated so many things, I'm inclined to think buildup on the inside of the intake beater. A lot of those in the 70-series out here were converted to solid drums do to buildup in grass seed.

Edited by mschultz 9/28/2023 19:32
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Pinto Bean
Posted 9/28/2023 20:09 (#10420392 - in reply to #10420052)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


NE ND
Yes, if it came loose the hub in the header clutch is shot as well.
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Survivor
Posted 9/28/2023 20:48 (#10420478 - in reply to #10420326)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Moreauville LA
Disengage everything, including lowering the auger in the hopper
Discharge beater belt, chopper, rotor, tine accelerator.

Check primary countershaft

Swing bearing on driveshaft

Broken cast arm on side behind clean grain elevator



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nightfarm
Posted 9/28/2023 21:51 (#10420604 - in reply to #10419913)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Check for dirt in Feed accelerator, also the hub on the electric
Clutch , when you shut off separator watch how the electric clutch coasts to a stop, if it lopes the hub is bad
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986ont
Posted 9/29/2023 05:57 (#10420735 - in reply to #10420198)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


mid western ontario
If you had rotor in neutral and still felt it can't be rotor bearing.
I would bet on primary counter shaft, or gearbox.
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Herf31
Posted 9/29/2023 07:48 (#10420893 - in reply to #10419913)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


illonois
Engine harmonic balancer coming apart?
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Tiler
Posted 9/29/2023 10:24 (#10421159 - in reply to #10420893)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


SCIA
We had the output shaft and yoke, on the front of the main gear case get enough wear to cause vibration (2200 separator hours) . At an idle. you could see that the yoke was not spinning true.
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jdmatt15
Posted 9/29/2023 10:44 (#10421176 - in reply to #10420893)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


When driving down the road without the machine running it’s as smooth as can be. Could that still be the cause?
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jdmatt15
Posted 9/30/2023 10:41 (#10422346 - in reply to #10420604)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Feed accelerator looks like it has a lot of dust in it. What’s the best way to clean it out? I used the air compressor and blew some out but that’s doing more stirring than getting dirt out
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jdmatt15
Posted 11/6/2023 10:26 (#10471009 - in reply to #10419913)
Subject: RE: 9660 shaking/vibrating


Hey everyone,
Finally found the culprit. It was a combination of soybeans that had some green stems and the feed accelerator being packed full of debris. Cleaned it out and it settled down. Switched over to corn and it was as smooth as could be. Thanks for all the help!
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