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Central ND | What's the nat opinion on older, cheaper mid size suv? Been looking at Traverse and Acadia, what others should I look at? Like to be $7500 or less, must have 3 row seating |
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WC MN & Valley of the Sun, AZ | Friend's 2010-ish Acadia owned since new has been a money pit. If it were mine, it would have been traded in on a Suburban long ago.
Edited by Schuerman Farms 5/23/2023 06:16
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Central ND | We have a new suburban, just looking for something for the wife to run around in when she doesn't need all the room in the suburban, torn whether I buy something to keep miles down on the sub or just forget about it though....... |
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WC MN & Valley of the Sun, AZ | Then why does it need three rows of seats?
Sounds like the perfect use for a cute little older depreciated sport or luxury car. |
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| Traverse and Acadia family of vehicles fall into the category of the newer the better. 2010-11 are some of the worst ones but 2014 and later got to be a lot better.
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| Honda Pilot if you want three seats. |
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Central ND | Because occasionally she does have all 4 kids, had a grand prix and it just wasn't working..... |
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Southeast WI | There's no free lunch with vehicles. Bought a nice, well maintained 2005 trailblazer from a friend years ago. Had 130ish thousand miles. Daughters drove it to HS and then 4 years of college. That had to be the most expensive vehicle I've ever owned over 70,000 miles. Nit picked us to death on suspension and other repairs. I would drive the hell out of the suburban and keep it maintained and move on when it's got 150+ on it. Expensive to maintain and insure a mostly wore out older car.
Ask yourseIf this - if you can spend that kind of money on a new Suburban why try to be cheap now? |
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| jd4930 - 5/23/2023 06:13
What's the nat opinion on older, cheaper mid size suv? Been looking at Traverse and Acadia, what others should I look at? Like to be $7500 or less, must have 3 row seating
2008-2012 Nissan Pathfinder |
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Central ND | You're probably not wrong........it comes back to a person can talk themselves into or out of anything lol |
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nc nebraska butte | Buy her a Tahoe
Lots less Money pit
Had 2008 Buick enclave was alright until about 160,000 miles then struts ,power steering unit,then timing chain, then Air condition.
But the wife likes them so bought a used one with 80,000 on it.
Lady Dr owned.
So I kinda ate my own words,:)
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Central Illinois - west of Peoria | + 1 on the Honda Pilot - they run trouble free for quite awhile. |
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Fairbury, NE (Southeast) | supposedly the transmission is suspect on those but we ran a 14 pathfinder for 6 years with no issues. was a good car and better than the 09 acadia reliability wise. |
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Sioux County, NWIA | jd4930 - 5/23/2023 06:18
We have a new suburban, just looking for something for the wife to run around in when she doesn't need all the room in the suburban, torn whether I buy something to keep miles down on the sub or just forget about it though.......
We were in the same situation, same size family. Don’t laugh, we bought a Prius and really like it. Up to 50 MPG and usually over 40 MPG, and it will hold Momma and 4 kids for a trip to town.
Edit to add. When we were looking for something to keep the miles off the Suburban, we found that any compact SUV or minivan didn’t have enough fuel savings to justify the cost. Even most sedans didn’t really impress us. The Prius was the only thing that could get us down below half the fuel usage of the ‘burb. We looked at battery powered cars as well and ruled them out due to range limitations.
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Southeast WI | I do that every day. Internal struggle sometimes!
With my consulting business I've crunched numbers every which way for 30 years. Best bang for buck is buy new, drive the hell out of it and by 150-170000 say goodbye. Last truck, my 2015 is an anomaly since it has a lifetime bumper to bumper warranty. Well at some point it won't be honored but so far it's going to hit 200,000 in a year or so. Downtime for "free repairs" is still going to be a pain even tho I have other trucks to use when in shop. |
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Southeast Colorado | We tried that theory several years ago and bought a used cheaper Equinox. Neither the wife or I ever liked driving that vehicle. It probably wasn't all that bad for a lot of people............but when you're used to driving pickups, suburbans, and other full sized vehicles.............you just had to plug your nose and wish you weren't in the little car the entire drive.
So between the extra insurance, license and maintaining another car...........I vote Drive the Suburban.
See, no problem for me at all spending your money!
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WC MN & Valley of the Sun, AZ | Here's the perfect solution -- Purchase an Escalade V for the going to town rig and church on Sundays. Keep the "old" Suburban as the farm/kid beater.
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Southeast Colorado | I was thinking more of a new generation Vette..........with a trailer hitch to tow the kids around when needed. Drop the trailer off (and hitch.....cuz that wouldn't be cool) when not.
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NW Iowa | Do not by a traverse, or Acadia older then 2014, my experience from 90-150k was well over 40 cents a mile.
My vote would be mini van, unless you do alot of gravel, then a 01-07 classic Chevy suburban/gmc |
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McCanna, ND | There is a reason those appear to be a reasonable price. Girlfriend had two and one was alright but had the v6. The 4 cylinder turned into a money pit. I was/am fed up with GM so went and bought a Subaru outback. Outback is 10x the car of a Acadia/traverse. Outback will go through more snow then a new 1/2 ton pickup, just did a 500 mile round trip at 80 and got 28mpg. Plus the cab is plenty comfortable for taller people, both front and rear seats. |
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Central ND | I like your thinking |
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| If its a second vehicle to keep miles off of a good vehicle, consider a mini van.
Minivan's are cheaper to buy, cheaper to keep running, better mileage, etc
On trips our Chrysler Pacifica will flirt with 30 mpg loaded up with the family and gear, back and forth to town ~25 mpg is pretty common.
She'd still have the Suburban for when the weather and roads are crap.
Those GM crossover SUV's all turn into bottomless money pits somewhere around the 100,000 mile mark. Some before, some after but they all get there.
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Southeast Colorado | Well then...........I'll take that as a direct snub to mine. |
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WC MN & Valley of the Sun, AZ | Good, I need to buy a C8 soon to replace my C6 Z06 and would be nice if GM was more hungry for customers. |
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Charles City IA | Wife drives a Tahoe and we wanted a smaller suv for knock around miles. Started by looking at GM as that’s about all that we’ve ever owned. That mid sized line up was boring and seemed cheap. We ended up buying a Grand Cherokee with the 5.7l. While mileage isn’t great it’s fun to drive being smaller with the v8 it’s quick. Also fits into smaller parking spots better
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| As appealing as the Traverse and Acadia are, they're cheap for a reason. As others have said they got a lot better in 2014, but early ones were troubled with timing chain wear and an inadequate transmission.
On the flip side I had bought a '12 SRX for the wife which uses the same family of engine and transmission. We sold it at 140k and it was trouble free that entire time (other than a set of transmission cooler lines). I'm not sure what to believe, but it is a little lighter vehicle and we owned it since 50k so I was able to make sure it had good oil in it. I've been pretty religious about using Mobil 1 in my GM vehicles and even though I change per the oil life meter (typically at 9k-10k miles) I've never had an issue.
An SRX may be worth considering; it's only a two row vehicle, but rear seat room is pretty good and the cargo area isn't super small. I just advise you look at a '12 or newer because that's when they started using the LFX v6 which rumor has it is better about timing chain wear. My only complaint with that car is I felt the seats were a bit stiff.
Edit: Fuel mileage was typically around 20 mpg doing errands. Road trips would see about 24.
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E ND | I get where you're going with this, and would agree if there was something about the miles intended for it that would accelerate the depreciation on the new vehicle - gravel, mud, farm use, whatever.
If it's purely a miles issue, I would have a hard time buying an additional 3-row SUV. You bought a great new vehicle in the Suburban, pile the miles on it and trade it a year earlier. It's really hard to come out ahead on buying a second vehicle and insuring, maintaining, licensing, etc. If you have to have something I would agree with the used minivan, Chrysler Town and Country.
Now if you were thinking a small, fuel efficient vehicle would work - that might pencil out. Honda Civic, Rav4, Subaru, etc would all be good options. |
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Coles County, Illinois | I suggest you go to an appraise my vehicle website and compare high mileage trade in value versus low mileage trade in value. I think you'll find that trade in value is a lot more about age than mileage. My 2015 Yukon has 147,000. The 120-130K is where I had to spend a fair amount on new rear air shocks, air conditioner condenser, power steering actuator, and throttle position sensor. Been trouble free since then. $50,000-$60,000 to trade keeps me willing to spend money on it. |
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Milford, IL | Is it a convertible and a six speed and black and clean and low mile? If so, my contact info is in profile. |
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North Liberty and South Bend, Indiana | Unless she drives a stupid amount of miles a year you will not save any money buying a second smaller vehicle unless it gets 50+ mpg. Extra insurance and actual cost of vehicle simply do not overcome fuel savings. Now, if you just want to keep miles off newer vehicle... that's silly too. Why have if and not drive it? But, if you have the cash and simply just want a smaller vehicle half the time, by all means do so. GM engines in the mid size SUV's were notorious for timing chain issues. There are good kits to replace with when one stretches too much but it is something to be aware of. |
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WC MN & Valley of the Sun, AZ | C6 Z06s only came with a manual transmission and solid roof for aluminum chassis stiffness.
One of 12 built in 2009 in black with red leather. It used to live in my garage just a hundred miles west of you. Bought new, never saw a drop of rain, never sat in the sun for more then a couple hours, parked inside at the office and heated/air conditioned garage at home. Only mods were factory 427 badges on the hood, CAGS delete, clear bra over the entire front end, and illegal for IL tinted windows. Changed oil every thousand miles with 10.5 quarts of Mobil1 in the dry sump tank. Sold it in spring of 2020 with 10k miles on it and used the proceeds to start farming.
Yet another in a long line of cars I'd like to have back. Miss that third gear pull.
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| dt4020 - 5/23/2023 07:05
supposedly the transmission is suspect on those but we ran a 14 pathfinder for 6 years with no issues. was a good car and better than the 09 acadia reliability wise.
A 14 Pathfinder vs a 12 is really apples to oranges. One is a built on a rwd body of frame truck design and the other is a fwd based unibody.
Nissan took a huge step backwards when the 13 unibody Pathfinder came out. |
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Milford, IL | That is clean. I misunderstood your previous post and thought you had one for sale before buying a C8. Been looking for a C5 or C6 convertible, I knew C5 Z06 was hardtop only, thought C6 could be had either way. I am not a Corvette expert but I would like to own one. And my wife is encouraging it which means I should probably search a little more often. |
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South Central, MN | I had a 2001 Surburban, which was nice. HOWEVER look out for that vintage as the "3rd row" does not have a foot well, it is just a flat floor. Older kids cant sit in it worth a crap
Honestly I have had better luck with Suburban's, Expeditions etc.. Full size SUV rather than crossover. |
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Central ND | That's all we have ever had is full size gm, and honestly the more I think about it we are probably better off just sticking with 1 vehicle and stay current |
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MT-ND | Must be in a bad neighborhood if they steal the tracks off a Cat D11... |
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MT-ND | Why not a Tahoe or Yukon or whatever the Cadillac name was? Or the Ford or Lincoln versions of them? |
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Central ND | Already have a full size suburban, IF we were going to have a second vehicle she would prefer something smaller |
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SW Iowa | Toyota Highlander should at least be on your list to look at. I have an '06 with 270k that is tighter and better condition in every way (including basically zero body rust) than any domestic vehicle I've owned was at half those miles, and though it's had a few things over the 11 years I've owned it, has been ridiculously reliable. The later first gens (like 2004-2007) had third row seating and 3.3 V6, which needs a timing belt every 90k (<$200 in parts) but otherwise are pretty solid. Second gen 2008-13(?) used 3.5 V6 which is a timing chain engine and I'd think could also likely be found in your price range. |
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C IL | My 2010 burb is around 285K. Somewhere around 25k miles per year.
Had the piston ring carbon deal redone at 99,500 miles (warranty). Rebuilt the front end/steering twice. New front main seal. New bearing on both front wheels. PWM fuel pump drive module had to be replaced. Just redid the transmission, torque converter went out 100 miles ago. Put in new rear main seal at the time. Had to put some freon in today. Not sure if it is the first or second time. Needs tires and one front ball joint again. Even with that, drives down the road straight. Body is going to finish rusting out in front of the rear wheel wells at some point.
I have thought a lot about second vehicles, work trucks, go to town Sunday vehicles, vacation vehicles, and the like, but I can’t make the math work. So I just keep driving. |
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NEMO | I must be the exception to the rule. We bought a 2011 Traverse with 30K on it in 2015. It now has 175K. All normal wear items in my opinion. Oil changes, obviously, front struts, lower front A arms, brakes, battery, tires. Getting ready to tackle engine mounts. Had an A/C line start leaking a couple of years ago. That was a fun one. Fuel economy not the greatest but I expected that. It runs over 8 miles of gravel daily, sometimes twice a day. Best thing we did was to get away from regular car tires and went with 10 ply. Don't have near the flats that we used to. |
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