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chris dds
Posted 7/15/2009 07:59 (#776466)
Subject: 4wd planetary oil


Minnesota
How often do you change the axle and planetary oil on your 4wd tractors with outboard planetaries?

I have a 9682 NH versitile -- the manual says to change every 2 years or 2000 hrs. We only put about 300 hrs per year on the tractor and it seems like overkill to change every two years.

Whats your opinion on oil changes?

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gmark
Posted 7/15/2009 08:33 (#776499 - in reply to #776466)
Subject: Re: 4wd planetary oil


mid Illinois
In two years, you would have 600 hours, and that is more hours than what was recommended for the old steigers. They said to change every 500 hours, and that is what I do on both my Steiger and Versatile tractors.
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JonND
Posted 7/15/2009 09:29 (#776566 - in reply to #776466)
Subject: Re: 4wd planetary oil


EC North Dakota
I have a 9880 which replaced an older Steiger Cougar. In both of these we replaced the oil every 2 years and the hydralic every year. I feel that the cost of the oil is much less than replacing planatary gears or ring and pinions in any tractor. I just look at it as preventative maintance. I just went through rebuilding the trans in the 9880 last year and now change the trans oil every year being sure to check the bottom for metal flakes.
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black dirt
Posted 7/15/2009 09:33 (#776571 - in reply to #776499)
Subject: Re: 4wd planetary oil



Elkhart, Illinois
I would agree with the 500 hours. You can't go wrong as there is no place for any metal shavings to go in an outboard planetary. I remember dad buying a new Steiger several years ago and draining planetaries after working the tractor for 2 days just in case there was any metal stuff in there.
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seedcleaner
Posted 7/15/2009 11:03 (#776680 - in reply to #776466)
Subject: Re: 4wd planetary oil


Mid-Missouri
Many planetaries have magnetic plugs on them. I would not personally change them every two years or 600 hours. I do believe in taking care of machinery but that seems excessive to me. New diesel engines are on the 500 hour service interval now. Although I feel that is too long, I believe a large planetary without any internal combustion should easily be able to go longer. Our 895 broke an axle and when we disassembled it, the oil and gears looked visually perfect. It had about 7,000 hours at the time, we bought it with maybe 5000, and I don't know the history on it before that. Yes, it is a good idea, but on our farm, I see other things that need more attention than changing planetary oil every 600 hours. If your planetary or differential don't have magnetic plugs, I would suggest installing that.
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Delmarva Ag
Posted 7/15/2009 11:32 (#776709 - in reply to #776466)
Subject: RE: 4wd planetary oil



Seaford, Delaware
The biggest issues with differentials and planetarys from a lubrication standpoint, is their ability to attract moisture which can break down the viscosity of the gear lube.

Alan
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dave morgan
Posted 7/15/2009 11:37 (#776713 - in reply to #776680)
Subject: Re: 4wd planetary oil


Somerville, Indiana
If a Versy is used on hillsides much at all the needle bearing end washers will wear and flake metal into the oil. Water, condensation is bad too, noted below. We change every year and check the washers every two years. Nice winter time work, cheaper than duck huntin and easier as we get broken in.
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School Of Hard Knock
Posted 7/15/2009 14:20 (#776832 - in reply to #776713)
Subject: Re: 4wd planetary oil


just a tish NE of central ND
dave morgan - 7/15/2009 11:37

If a Versy is used on hillsides much at all the needle bearing end washers will wear and flake metal into the oil. Water, condensation is bad too, noted below. We change every year and check the washers every two years. Nice winter time work, cheaper than duck huntin and easier as we get broken in.

Yep, I change the lube at 500 hours..... cant say I've ever checked washers(plnaataries are fairly new to me) Tell me how you do the washeer checking procedure.
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RICK NCMD
Posted 7/15/2009 21:49 (#777188 - in reply to #776709)
Subject: RE: 4wd planetary oil



Synthetic?
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dave morgan
Posted 7/16/2009 16:59 (#777991 - in reply to #776832)
Subject: Re:checking planetaries


Somerville, Indiana
screw apprx 2 feet of 1/2? inch pipe in the fill or drain plug whichever suits your shoulders the most, remove the bolts, then set final drive on a bench. Knock out the roll pins and check the washers. They will wear at the point where the needles contact them. We.ve not had to change them as often since we began using 50W oil in the planetaries. The washers will if left go, shed enough metal to lock up the needles and cause the end of at least one of the pins to turn the paint blue. That adventure usually happens in cold weather. Main most thing to remember is washers are available from Versy, and they are next to free for the taking.
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dave morgan
Posted 7/16/2009 17:01 (#777994 - in reply to #776571)
Subject: Re: 4wd planetary oil


Somerville, Indiana
Yeah, many on here know I like to change oil and use a grease gun. Never a bad thing to change oil a little bit too soon. Past two years on anything, I would begin to feel guilty.
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