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JonSCKs
Posted 12/16/2022 12:03 (#9986600)
Subject: HRW crop blowing out..


2nd.. or 3rd day of sustained 50 mph winds devastating barely emerged.. not emerged.. HRW Wheat fields in Kansas.

Visibility in the truck was down to a quarter mile in spots.. vans poking along at 40 mph so as to not tip.. UGLY conditions.

Yes.. probably more acres planted..

Not gonna matter as 5% or more is already gone.. and even if it starts raining.. has to emerge and root in.. maybe 30 bu wheat if it emerged by February..?

Basically it's gonna be worse than last year..

Oh and winterkill conditions coming next week.. to polish off the barely emerged.. shallow drilled stuff.

Worse than 1989???



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mike swne
Posted 12/16/2022 12:51 (#9986665 - in reply to #9986600)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..



Big Springs, Nebraska
Yep Jon,
Had just been snow blowing Tuesday and Wednesday then yesterday started getting a tinge of dirt collecting on things in the yard and today its down right dirt starting to drift in places.
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SLC
Posted 12/16/2022 14:36 (#9986809 - in reply to #9986600)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


Jon, those pictures are not bad compared to some of the stuff I have seen. Seen so much dust the sky is brown, not blue. And not just on the horizon. But how much is that way? Drove across northern OK the other day. Wheat all had good stands and good color. Looked like decent moisture too, but can’t measure sub moisture from the road. All too late and short to graze, but that may lead to better grain yields than normal in those areas? So overall I am not sure which way the scale tips
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Blackdog
Posted 12/16/2022 15:09 (#9986867 - in reply to #9986809)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


Pond Creek, Oklahoma
We’re still short on sub soil moisture. Small wheat, but good stands. I’m worried about winter kill on my no till stuff. To much residue.
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swne
Posted 12/16/2022 15:14 (#9986871 - in reply to #9986600)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska
Jon, you know it’s not allowed to kill a wheat crop in December. I agree it in bad shape. I seldom am concerned about winter kill but this could be the year.
Yet……the price of wheat keeps going down.
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GLF
Posted 12/16/2022 15:46 (#9986920 - in reply to #9986600)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


West Central Alberta
In the winter of 88/89 I drove from Leoti, Ks to Denver through winds and blowing dirt like that. It was as bad as any snowstorm up here. Didn't dare to pull over in case the guy behind you doesn't see you. I should have changed engine oil in Denver, as the engine in the pickup barely made it back to the yard. Dusted it.
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w1891
Posted 12/16/2022 16:06 (#9986959 - in reply to #9986871)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


S Illinois
The price issue is total world wheat production is somewhere around 28 billion bu. US total wheat production is 1.65 billion and HRW is normally now around 750 million bu. US HRW to world wheat production would be similar to what ND is to US corn production. Just not the production volume to be a needle mover in and of itself. US crop conditions definitely aren't hurting prices, just lots of other places play a bigger role.
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Usedtofarm
Posted 12/16/2022 16:43 (#9987028 - in reply to #9986600)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


My question is "If it's that dry why are the fields so bare" ? Why no cover left on top?
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Douglass ks
Posted 12/16/2022 17:06 (#9987081 - in reply to #9986600)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..



Douglass Kansas

Where are these photos from? Did you get rain earlier this week? I had heard areas of Pratt county got around an inch. We had 0.8" this week, which puts us at 6.6" since frost.

There is a lot more wheat planted in Butler and Cowley counties most looks good or excellent.

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bkadds
Posted 12/16/2022 17:08 (#9987085 - in reply to #9987028)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


Dalhart, Texas
Year after year of nothing eventually leads to blowing dirt even in no-till
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stevepfrm
Posted 12/16/2022 18:16 (#9987242 - in reply to #9986600)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


Norton,KS
Could look like this!



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SLC
Posted 12/16/2022 19:08 (#9987348 - in reply to #9987242)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


Was that from Friday,December 2? We drove through that south of Oakley on our way to g Colby that afternoon
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JonSCKs
Posted 12/16/2022 20:45 (#9987568 - in reply to #9987028)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


Usedtofarm - 12/16/2022 16:43

My question is "If it's that dry why are the fields so bare" ? Why no cover left on top?


Because it's dry...

edit to expand.. we’re triggered on La Niña just like last year.. the which hammered north of us in the Dakota’s.. etc.. This drought was deceptive.. I mean we’re usually dry.. so the spring starts.. and we start to fall behind.. for us.. we captured about 4 to 5” of needed precip near the end of May first of June.. most of the wheat had started to turn.. it helped some late maturing but possibly washed a little test weight out of some other to our south?  Kind of a kick “we’ll NOW it rains.. where was this 3 weeks ago when it could have added bushels?”

Not picking on neighbor.. just a “wow it’s dry” story.. the debate on cover crops here is loss of soil moisture vs cover crop benefits.. we do irrigated cover crops but seldom water.. Covers work best for livestock grazing programs.. “here.”  The neighbor let his cover.. or was it wheat?  Nope must be a cover.. crop.. go.. then sprayed.. later than the rest of us.. to seed back a sorghum “crop”.. only about 5% of it emerged.  (Again I’m not picking.. other years that would/should have been okay.. “Wow.. it’s dry.”  Basically wasn’t anything to harvest.. or even bale.

we harvested our drought shortened wheat crop and Ma Nature really turned the tap off.. blades.. well.. we’ll wait for rain..harder then a rock so need to bust this open.. mid late July..??  SW Kansas some got up to 3”.. we were suppose to get a little.. got like 0.45” ish.. okay started the chisel.. will need moisture to break back down.. but “surely” something will come.. typical July in Kansas vibe.

nothing.. other then glorified mistings.. 0.05”.. 0.2”.. we had an inch plus on August 27th.. started to field cultivate the heavier ground.. less on the sand so stopped..

that was it till November 4th.

We usually get something to drill into.. but not this year.

So we seeded deep.. about 1.75”.. I didn’t want it to sprout and die on a misting.. so went deep.. right call on the sand.. got it.. mostly up.

I forgot I plowed the heavier ground last year.. oops.. anyway the drill went in an extra.. 0.25” in spots.. so when the rains came in November… we had 0.75” in 20 minutes.. so hard that water was running across the road.. on 0.75”?!? Then another almost inch.. so cross drilled that..

and after 85lbs the first time.. followed by 40 lbs the 2nd.. got.. it somewhat covered fingers crossed that it fills in.. by spring.  So it goes.

neighbor said.. “this is a year where nobody will be wrong..some drilled shallow and got it up.. and nobody will be right.. but also some shallow blew out and or may die on winter kill.. too deep.. well see above.. so.. ??

i didnt wanna touch it in front of the drill so a pass of rup.. then the drill.. some ran a cultivator..(good luck holding that..) but brought just enough moisture up.. to get it emerged.. see picture below.. but man is it shifty.

no right answers.. just make a decision and roll with it.

fwiw.

one of those years.





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Joelt
Posted 12/16/2022 21:14 (#9987635 - in reply to #9987028)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


perryton, tx
In order to cover the ground you have to have moisture to grow something first.
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ColoKansas
Posted 12/16/2022 22:55 (#9987794 - in reply to #9987635)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


SC Kansas
Noticed our roadsides are turning into sand dunes, and grass areas are turning into powder. Even with .40 a few days ago, which may have made it worse oddly enough.

Repeat drought is a bummer. Not too long ago we had some PP for being to wet, but it takes an act of god if it’s too dry?
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gregrundell
Posted 12/17/2022 03:52 (#9987884 - in reply to #9987635)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


Garden City Ks
Don’t you plant drought resistant wheat? I did I’m expecting 60 BPA! Or does the tolerance only work if emerged?
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ColoKansas
Posted 12/17/2022 15:15 (#9988869 - in reply to #9987884)
Subject: RE: HRW crop blowing out..


SC Kansas
We planted 5 circles, the only thing drought resistant. We will see if the itty bitty little wheat makes it through this cold snap though.

The stuff that's not emerged, well not too sure how that whole vernalization thing works on that.
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