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| Hi Guy's - Greetings from Down Under!!
Out of interest have any of you guy's operated one of these?
They were never sold here in OZ and it got me thinking what they were like. They were basically a 7720 or a 9500 without the cab?
What HP did you need and how cumbersome were they?
I think I've got the models right!!
Some of the info gleaned from over here from the Deere guy's is that they were mainly sold in Canada.
Any info would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Henry |
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| The Models you are referring to are 1051 and they came in closed 25' closed front and 22' open front. The guy who designed the comb attachment is still in a asylum recouperating, it was a work of art. I had both types and found them acceptable and required about 200 hp to drive them successfully. If memory serves me correctly the combine was made in the US and the comb made in Oz, maybe vice versa. One was metric and one was imperial. Email me for more. |
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Mississippi | I have seen the 9501 and 7721 you are talking about Henry. As much as I know about them, they were popular in areas that mainly windrowed their wheat. 150 hp would run the 7721, the 95 needed a little more. The model gough is on about were only run in Australia. |
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Central NSW, Australia | I ran a 1051 with the 25ft closed front for a number of years. As far as I know they were made by Chamberlain in Welshpool Western Australia. It now lays dead in the corner of a paddock. I pulled mine with an Allis 7040 (136 pto hp) This was a good match as it would only grunt when going up a hill with a full box (6 tons) As Gough Whitlam indicated, the design of the front with regard to how it folded back into transport position was ingenious. The biggest weakness in my view was the strength of the front as it eventually succumbed to drooping and fatigue. Otherwise at the time it suited my operation well.
David |
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Huntley Montana | The pull types worked ok in sawthed grain. Only the 1482 & 1682 IH would do ok with a platform, on the conventionals you would overload 1 side while the other side ran almost empty. |
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Regina/ 14 miles South of Moose Jaw Saskatchewan | Never ran the JD's (would like either one of them, but nice one's still sell for a high price in Western Canada) - I believe 9501's were built in cooperation between Buhler (FarmKing) and JD prior to the Versatile buyout - the few you see for sale list for $35-40K Canadian.
We've run a Massey 851 PT - which is similar to a MF 850, and currently have two IHC 1482, which are similar to 1480's - the IHC's take from 150-250 HP in from the tractor depending how much you want to load them - lower HP end determines throughput and handling in the field - upper end limit is based on the gearboxes on the combine - too much power & the gearboxes can give out....
FWIW
Doug W. |
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Swift Current, Sask | I have a 7721 Titan II. Put the HP to it and it can be a real beast. We power it with a 200 hp JD 4840. I know guys around here that run them with 130 hp JD 4440's, but they only have straw spreaders on them. One fellow who had a 9501 ran it with a 7140 Case IH. I have run my 7721 side by side with a 7720 Titan II, which has 180 hp (I believe), and the extra HP makes a difference.
Good combines, but kind of awkward and cumbersome to use. They are a dying breed now that hardly anyone swaths anymore. We swath our lentils, so that is what it gets used for now. The one I have is a real gem. And yes, they are basically like their SP "twins", only without cabs.
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Southeast Florida | Did any of those come with an offset header to where a guy could cut like a regular combine? I wonder how they would work in rice and soy bean? |
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| Gough, the 1051 pt combine you guys had down there was based on the German model 955 combine which is quite a bit different than the pull-types in Canada. The 1051 had a 41-inch wide cylinder x 24inch diameter. The 7721 pull-type we seen up here was a 55-inch wide cylinder with 22-inch diameter and based on the 7720 self-propelled combine. We also had the 6601 pull-type that was based on the 6600 combine.
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nw mb | Nice looking setup, I always liked the pull types. My uncle still uses the Versatile TA 2000 with a 835 in front. Cant miss it coming down the road. |
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Hagen Brothers farms,Goodrich ND | I ran an IH 1482 pull type for many years, It worked well for picking windrows or direct cutting with the 17.5 ft direct cut head.
Last year I stripped it for parts to rebuild a self propelled machine.
the little Steiger tractor was a good match with enough weight to control it in hills and enough power for great capacity.
Edited by Jon Hagen 7/7/2009 12:20
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SW Saskatchewan | The original IH literature for the 1482 had it hitched to the hydro-186 so they could brag about the infinite speed adjustment available.
Had a 186, doubt if it could have even pulled the 1482 into position to take the picture-but the real test would have been making a turn coming down hill with the 245 bu tank fully loaded!
Honey bee made an adapter for a 25 ft header to the 14-1682 -never saw one run. |
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Southeast Florida | Did any of those come with a reel header or just a pickup header? It looks like it would need to be offset if a 20-25' header was available. |
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Ste. Rose, MB | Ya, we have a 7721, pulled by 4650 with ps. Alright combine I guess, but personally hate it. Such a pain in the ass always looking back, unloading with it isnt the funest either. Every time you move from yard or field you have to put it in transport/field mode which includes getting out of the cab 3-4 times...just lil things that are time consuming really. They're value has just plummited cuz of them bein obselete. Wouldnt cry if a bearing went & I saw flames...hahaha....gets work done, but too small for us right now(thats what happens when you're with ppl that dont like to upgrade too often :( |
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Alberta, Canada | Not sure what you're talking about Doug, 7721 and 9501's go cheap around here! Was thinking about buying one myself for the 80-160 acres/year I'd need to combine as I break up old hay ground. |
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Huntley Montana | Problem was is with a Header you over feed the 1 side of the machine. It worked on the rotarys, but not on the conventionals |
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| Settled down yet. |
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| Thanks for all your input guy's!
I know about the 1051 - my father was looking at one in the 80's - thank God he bought a 7720!!
Henry |
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Mississippi | i got married years ago gough. ;) |
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| That says a lot about what caused the problem in the first place. |
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7721 or 9501 PTO Combine
