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| I’m wanting to put up a top dry I think it fits my farm the best. What are you guys using to feed the bin from wet holding bin. I don’t have leg looking for ideas thanks and any pictures of your set ups. |
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nw/nc iowa on the banks of West Buttrick Creek.. | If you are talking Stormor top dry bins, they were made for guys with the 300 MAssey. I know some guys have turbo charged them, but still slow. |
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Trivoli, Illinois | Whats your location, I have 2 Top Drys. Your welcome to look at are system. |
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| alnciowa - 10/14/2021 10:35
If you are talking Stormor top dry bins, they were made for guys with the 300 MAssey. I know some guys have turbo charged them, but still slow.[/QUOTE
]if a dryer burns 50 gallons an hour of propane it will keep up with any other dryer burning 50 gal)on per hour
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Black Hawk Co IA | Depends on how you run it, manual or automatic?
We have a jump auger under the hopper to a 10” straight auger run by a 4020. We run manual batch mode, works for us. Can fill in about 20 minutes, 1,200 bushels.
I would like to put an electric double run conveyor feeding it, and get set up to run automatically, but not in budget yet.
Enjoy the top dry, it really is a good simple system. |
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Northeastern Pa. | The farm I sell corn to has 2 huge top drys works great from what I can tell. I don't get the bad rap on them. |
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Southeast PA | How big of one do you want to put up? Do you want it set up as batch or autoflow?
At work we fill ours (gsi 36' 11 ring) with a leg. It's set up as autoflow. Dry a lot of corn with it during the season, maintenance is simple, and not much to break/wear out on it.
Key is to load it quickly, even more important when in batch mode, since batch loading time is time you are not drying. Depending how much you need to dry, if not using a leg, I would use at least a 10" (but 13" is always better) auger to fill. |
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NW IL | Haven't heard anyone answer your question, but following as we are thinking of a similar setup. |
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belding, MI | Before our leg went in, we used a 8 inch by 60ft auger. It took 20 to 25 minutes to fill. Ours is roughly 1000bu batches |
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| We would fill our 24 foot with an 8 inch auger feeding a 3000bph leg. Could fill in 20-28 min depending on moisture of corn. Full batches of about 1000 bu in corn around 22 percent and lower. A newer one running constant flow does not fill a whole batch at once, so could reload at 40-50 bushels per min with an 8 inch running full capacity. |
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Ripley, Ontario Canada | I used one trying to dry corn 25% or more. That moisture is common here. I will never look at one again. We dried batch and would have ten % and 30 % in the same batch when we dropped. No way to tell how it would blend and no way to put it back in if dropped too wet. Also had low dealer support. They likely work good if you are drying 18% corn but I would either have stir bin of continuous flow dryer or pto batch dryer
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| Southern illinois how old are they |
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Trivoli, Illinois | I have 2-- 30' Stormors one 1 burner and a 2 burner. I load mine with a leg, 1500 bu to a batch. Done it for years with a 10" auger from a 3300 wet bin. They are simple and reliable. I would try to build a 30' with two 36" fans. Mine are 40 years old. GSI also makes a improved TopDry |
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North Central Iowa | Have 2 Stormors with wet tank. Hutchinson Grain Pump. Same system fills them and empties them.
Can move grain from any bin to another. Can pull from any bin or all 3 and blend as I load out.
Not shiny and new anymore but works for me.
Even works with my 2388...lol
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n.c.iowa | You got all the neat stuff… |
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| That is a really nice efficient system with a small footprint for someone who doesn’t need to hit very tall bins. Sure beats having augers sprawled all over the yard. |
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Trivoli, Illinois | Being able to operate everything with electricity and no PTO equipment is life changing. |
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North central, IA | We have a 36 ft diameter, 4 burner stormor ezdry converted to continuous flow that puts out more btus and dries corn faster than most farm dryers. |
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North central, IA | 10 inch double run from the wet bin to fill ours. |
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| We have an 8 ring 30' Top Dry with two fans / burners. I fought different moisture for several years. Was either to wet or two dry depending on what moisture corn went in. Last year we put a Cal-Cu-Dry in it and made all the difference in the world. The CCD! Has moisture sensors like on a combine near the bottom of the drying floor. Corn doesn't drop into the storage compartment until it hit the moisture I set the CCD at no matter what the moisture it is when it goes into the TopmDry. Wasnt cheap but worth every pen ey.
As for our wet holding settup, we have a 12,500 bu hopper bin with 61° floor slope. Hopper bin has a slide gate controlled by the Top Dry controller, that drops corn into a Kvalve where corn is directed to either a 10" auger feeding the Top Dry or into a short 10" jump auger to load trucks. We save enough early season corn to fill the hopper bin when we're done drying corn. Hopper bin has 4 11/2-hp fans so we can aeriate corn in it
Our only issue is we have 1ph, so large motor we can pit on the feed auger is a 15hp. Auger is 71' long and should have a 20 or 25hp motor but to do that we would need to 3ph. Priced switching 2 years ago and was going to cost close to $50,000 to change over. Looked into phase converters but our electrician says it would take two, one for wet corn auger & one for the dry corn auger that takes dry corn from Top Dry to storage bins. Wish we would have put 3ph & a leg in when we had our system in 2013. ThHave considered replacing the wet auger with an air system where we could use 2 single phase motors to run it.
FWIW, we run ~ 275, 000 - 300,000 bu thru our Top Dry annually. |
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| Will add, we run ours in continuous mode. When corn reaches the set point on the CalCuDry, chutes open for a determined time, 32 sec is recommended for a 30 '. End of 32 seconds chutes close and controller turns on motor on wet auger then slide gate letting corn into wet auger. When corn reaches the full level on the drying floor controller shut slide gate, then after giving time for wet auger to empty controller shuts off wet auger. This allows auger to be empty 9n start up making an easier start. No fun to have a plugged wet auger. Top Dry continues drying until grain reaches the predetermined moisture level at the CalCuDry sensors then whole process starts over. Anything goes wrong & the Top Dry control will shut the system down until you reset it.
The dry storage chamber, bin under the Top Dry, was suppose to be settup to operate similarly , when dry corn reaches a certain depth in the dry chamber sensors were to turn on dry augers & unloading on the Top Dry. When corn dropped to a certain point augers would shut off. Dry bins have sensors to shut augers off when that bin is full. Guy that built the system never could get things to work properly so instead of running the risk of overfilling a dry bin we run the dry unload augers manually.. I figure there's at least $12 - $ 15,000 of electronic switches , wiring, & control panels that just sit there unused. We now have an exceptional young electrician that more than likely could make the system work but we've operated so long the way it is I'm comfortable with it the way it is.
Our biggest hangup is when corn gets 5o 18-19% our wet auger system can't keep up. TopmDry dries it faster than the auger will keep the Top Dry full because the 15 hp 1ph motor doesn't have the capability of running the auger that full. This where 3ph & a larger motor would be beneficial. 20% & over we have no issues. Last year dried corn as high as 28% without a hitch. |
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| My father has a topdry that we fill with a 10" auger 66' with swing hopper that fits up perfect to the standard unload on the wet bin. The auger is run with a electric motor so everything is completely automatic. Works well for us and all of the grain moving is done with equipment we already had. Took some time to get all the electronics set right but works for us. |
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NWMO | Double run to feed it works very well. |
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St. Joseph, Champaign County, IL | Do you have the electrical capacity to put a second 15hp motor on the wet auger? As an example, Shivvers puts 2 motors on their High Torque Drive System. I've wired a couple, using 2-15hp motors. |
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North central, IA | Boog - our system is very similar. I'm glad I'm not the only guy using a dryer designed for guys with a massey 300.
Our continuous flow system is a retrofit into a stormor ezdry sold by Moore automation in Trimont Mn. |
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NW Iowa | I have some questions on your system. Could you contact me? Email address is in my profile. |
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North Central Iowa | Not so neat cleaning bird nests out.....lol
But it is a nice sunny day and the view is top notch ;)
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| guypatrick - 10/14/2021 18:21
10 inch double run from the wet bin to fill ours.
the 10 inch double run ,
HP per bu equal to a 8 inch auger ? |
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