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North Central Indiana | Need to change 8 gauge wheel tires and a couple bearings. How do you get them back together? Looks like it’s going to be a real bear! |
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Northern Nebraska | Better Than just jumping on them? I use three longer ready rods and thread it together. |
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WCIL | We just replaced a tire on our 1770. It was a little tough. We lubed it good with wd40 and got the steel half in then used 4 long bolts to draw the plastic half in, which also keeps the holes in line. Threaded rod would be best but we did not have any small enough, so we used bolts and washers and kept repeating until we got it. I would weld a nut or double nut one end to use an impact on, then use a wrench on the other. We also pried a little to relieve the tire a bit. A little time consuming but got it.
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West-Central IL | There's a couple videos on you tube if you search for gauge wheel tires. I use our hydraulic shop press. Similar to the ideas already presented and use a about three bolts or punches to keep holes lines up. Helps to lube a little, I've used Dawn soap, pipe lube, etc. As long as it won't hurt the rubber. |
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SW Ohio | I used tire lube on my kinze and the shop press, but both halves were steel. I like the look of shoup's tool they made to press them together, but dont care for the $200 price tag. |
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Northern Ohio | WD40 can be hard on rubber. Rubber lubricant like they use at tire shop may work better. |
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| What planter and style bearing ? Older JD planters with stub shaft bearings that attach to the arms can be tricky to get drawn together squarely. Previous post I made with links to my IE album on this.
https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=93009
For the other style with a pass through bolt style bearing you may find a press style tool helpful. This poster has ads in the classifieds here for this style tool. https://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=686526 Video of tool being used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRdETkSlae4
I also see where Shoup is offering a press also.
https://www.shoupparts.com/P2000-Tire-Press/ Others opinions on Ag Talk vary I just never had good luck stomping them together and getting them to run without wobbling. I wanted them to run as close to straight and true as I could make them. Edit: Once they are mounted stick them on a jig in the vice to evaluate how true they run. 
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| Easy and quickest way.
1. Take two rail;road ties about 3 feet long . Lay them side by side on concrete floor.
2. Align tire and wheel holes ,brush vegtable oil, soap water solution on wheel rims and tire and place on top of the railroad ties .
3. Take another railroad tie block and place it on top of the aligned wheel rims and tire.
4. Get a strong pallet with about 1200 lbs or more of front tractor weights on it and lower it down on the railroad tie top block which presses the tire on the rim laying on the railroad tie table with ease.
5. You do not need to mess with long alignment bolts with this method . The pallet of weights presses the halves together well enough that the original planter wheel bolts will be all you need
Planter tire foot stomping is for apprentice rookie college boys
Edited by tex 3/28/2018 09:59
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| x2 on using bolts and the shop press. |
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Nebraska, The land of corn and cattle | That sounds way more complicated than the bolt method which Ive used or just lining the holes up and using a rubber mallet. The presses look like a good idea, and if you were changing alot of tires itd probably be worth it, then you always have it after that, not like its going to wear out in anyones lifetime lol |
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SE Nebraska | I lube them up with tire lube real good. I then stand on the center dish and use the end of a sledge hammer to tap them down. It works good when you get the hang of it. I can usually change one out in about five minutes or less. |
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| All I know is you can do a lot of tires with this method very quickly using only 3 railroad tie blocks and a pallet of weights. Very easy with not much muscle work
Edited by tex 3/28/2018 10:24
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Macon, IL | Allthread and a little cordless impact gun pulls them right together. |
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Idaho | I just use a press. I can do one in a couple of minutes. First press the bearing through which seperates the two metal plates. Flip over, put in new bearing, spray on a lubrication put on top plate and press back together. The only time it takes me a long time is if I am not paying attention and I press it back together and the little holes don't align. |
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| Just a suggestion, but price out what a whole pre-made version is from Deere. Last time I looked, a complete gauge wheel was only a couple of bucks more than a new rubber and bearing. |
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| We did 44 of them on a 1990 drill. Used the press. Put one of the disc blades off the drill on the table to work on and support the tire. i don't remember the exact order but put one side on , put the bearing in, drop a couple long bolts through to line up a couple holes and press the other side in. Didn't actually take to long. |
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Eastern Ont | I've used a similar method with front end loader and flat surface. Also warming up the tires/rubber helps too. |
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North central, IA | Lay the tires out in bright sunshine for several hours. You'll be amazed what a difference it makes.
I know bright sunshine can be hard to come by this time of year..... |
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NE KS | I do the pretty much the same here. I use some plates with 5/8" holes, some bolts to align wheel halves, and use a 5/8" bolt and tap to draw them together. I lube tire beforehand and the bolt threads for drawing together. I still pry around on plastic rim half with screwdriver to get rubber started. Impact makes quick work of it.
Much better than jumping on them. |
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Swaledale, IA | I have best luck with Palmolive and about 3 longer bolts and my 1/4" impact with deep socket. Takes a little time but very little effort. |
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North Central Indiana | Thanks for all the suggestions! I’ll give these ideas a try! |
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| My boys just did 24 last Saturday warmed them up between the doors of outdoor boiler. Then used a press and Dawn dish soap.
Went pretty quick
Warming up the tires seemed to help the most
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Central Iowa | That seems like a lot of work compared to just simply drawing the halves together with some bolts or ready rods, some simple hand tools and soap. It has worked for me many times.
Edited by cardinal farms 3/28/2018 17:22
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wcia | we made a jig for the press when your doing a bunch you need it easy ive jumped on a bunch or stand on them and use a long screwdriver |
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WCIL | If you use a press, use a 2x12 or something very wide vs a 4x4. The more contact area the better. |
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| The tool from Shoup should last til the end of Your farming career. Unless you are a full time planter rebuilder!! That tool will save a lot of time and hassle when You need to be planting instead of futzing around with clamps and bolts, and other suggestions on here. They all work, but for $200, that tool is worth 10 times that. |
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| Shoup has a tool for $200. I think it is worth every penny, and much more.
Make sure You warm up the tire. Place them in the sun for a couple hours. |
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Hodgenville KY | Bought the shoupe tool recently and my son was smiling after going through about 30 tires this evening --that makes it worth the expense! |
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Missouri | Maybe in the long term, but a single exposure is not materially harmful. In our shop, they got the nearest aerosol. WD40, penetrating oil, lubricating oil, silicone spray lube, chain lube, whatever. It's not like it's going to stop the bead from sealing.
I never tried tire bead lube, but if you had it handily available that seems like a good choice.
Dawn dish soap works too good. The tire gets so slick sometimes it slides right back off before you get a bolt in the wheel.
I've wondered if dawn dish soap watered down, and wiped on with a rag, would work well, but I still stick to my method of whatever spray lube is at arms reach.
To answer the original question, the "best" way is to replace entire assemblies and not jack with gauge wheel breakdown, but I think that is outside the scope of answers the OP is looking for. |
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What’s the easiest/best way to press a Deere gauge wheel back together?
