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WC MN | We have insulated and heated our 60x40 shop on our farm. The only thing we have left to do is figure out what lights to use. We were thinking 3 rows of 2 lights. What does everyone recommend. Led or Fluorescent? How many Lumens? What length?
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Central ND | That isn't even a question IMO, led all the way! There should be a chart online somewhere that you can enter your dimensions and it will give you some guidelines as far as what size and how many lights to install. |
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mn | Just replied to your email.
With LED you need 75 lumens per square foot. With florescent you need to figure around 100 lumens per square foot. |
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EC IL | LED the only way. They tuck up against ceiling and reflect well. This is ours from JTP. 60x54 shop. Pics have been on before.
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W.C. Mo. | And that is when the fluorescent lights are new. In 7 years the light will be at least 1/3 less. Just replaced 6- 8 bulb t-5 lights in shop with 6 led's. Over 2x as bright now. Only complaint I have with the new lights is they throw more shadows.
Edit My new lights are the smaller cone shaped lights--not the long thin tube like ones.
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s nd | I ended up with 6 10,000 lumen leds, 8 footers with 2 rows bulbs in a 50 wide by 40 deep shop. Black walls to boot. 250 apiece. Only 14 foot ceiling though. Have 3 smaller leds above bench for close work.
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Findlay, Ohio | Use LED's we changed all of ours out and the difference is like night and day and they use less power. |
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| http://www.e-conolight.com/replaces-up-to-175w-8000-lumens-led-roun...
This is what we decided on for the new shop, per my brother's recommendation.
We have them spaced about every 14-16' on a pattern.
Brilliant bright light that is fit to work under. We are in the process of installing them now, we only have a few wired in, but they are really nice lights.
LED. I think they draw either .4 or .7 amps each. Lightweight and easy to hang, they also sell hooks to go in the tops of them. If you sign up for emails, they have 15% off sales regularly and our order had free shipping.
The site also has a lighting layout tool you can play with.
My brother is the CEO of an electrical contracting firm, so we trusted his recommendations. |
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WEST CENTRAL MINNESOTA | https://www.amazon.com/dp/B076V6H69Y/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I3MHRHS3U...
Bright lights for the price...24000LM |
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| I replaced some of my 8' high output T12's, 75 watt bulbs with some 48 watt LED's. I'm not sure the LED is better, although it takes less power. Some of the LED's available have two rows of chips and I would like to try them. However they are 60 watt I think so getting close to my flourescents power wise. In my house I replaced some 4' fluorescents with LED and they seem to be much better. |
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Clarksville, IL | Im looking at building a 60X80 shop 18 ft tall going through the same thing. I found somewhere online here had LEDs for sale looking at them but have not priced anywhere else. My Father in law found a app that said like 21 lights these were from peterson i think. I plan to put more up front where we will be working and less in the back of the shop like 5 compared to 3 dont plan on working on much in the back of the shop more towards the front and work bench area.
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mn | farmindog - 2/4/2018 15:52
I replaced some of my 8' high output T12's, 75 watt bulbs with some 48 watt LED's. I'm not sure the LED is better, although it takes less power. Some of the LED's available have two rows of chips and I would like to try them. However they are 60 watt I think so getting close to my flourescents power wise. In my house I replaced some 4' fluorescents with LED and they seem to be much better.
A 48w LED should be nearly twice as bright as the 75w fluorescent. If it's not, something is wrong or there was some mis representation going on. |
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North Central Iowa | I would recommend strip/tube LEDs over bulbs/point lights. Much better at eliminating shadows. If doing 3 rows, consider putting the outside rows closer to the edge rather than at the 1/4 pt to minimize shadows in front of you as you face a wall. Most shops would have a lot of the work and storage along the walls.
As far as type of LEDs and fixtures, there are almost too many options. I've recently been putting up LED "ready" vapor tight fixtures that can take 3 LED 48" bulbs in our barns (try to keep insects and dust out of the fixtures). All it means to be LED ready is that the fixtures don't have ballast and the tombstones are wired directly to line voltage. Been putting 2 bulbs in and if we decide want to go brighter, add the 3rd bulb.
V473SSUBCXX00P0 from PRO Lighting for the fixtures. Bulbs I've gotten from eledlights.com. DLC rated 4 ft LED tubes.
In a shop, the vapor tight fixtures may not be worth it, probably less expensive to put up more conventional open fixtures/strips. But an option to consider.
Consider wiring your lights up at 240 volts, cuts back on amp draw (or use normal #12 wire at longer distances). For our large outbuilding with 21 of the Prolighting fixtures w/ 3 bulbs, could put all on one circuit even though had very long runs (was only 5 amps, but over 250 ft of wire run from the panel, so voltage drop is a concern). Used a double pole light switch. Not sure you can set up 3 way switching easily however doing this. Most LEDs can be wired 120 v-277 volt (you'll want to confirm that).
In any lighting you decide, DLC rated would be a good thing to look for (kind of like Energy Star) and lights with over 100 lumens/watt. |
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mn | dub - 2/4/2018 15:59
Im looking at building a 60X80 shop 18 ft tall going through the same thing. I found somewhere online here had LEDs for sale looking at them but have not priced anywhere else. My Father in law found a app that said like 21 lights these were from peterson i think. I plan to put more up front where we will be working and less in the back of the shop like 5 compared to 3 dont plan on working on much in the back of the shop more towards the front and work bench area.
Allen
You need somewhere around 360,000 lumens in there. Keep in mind that it's always better to have a bunch of low lumen lights vs a few high lumen lights.
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S.E. Sask. Canada | Just converted half the t12's in our shop to l.e.d from Petersen parts in Sleepy Eye MN. The difference is amazing, probably won't buy anything but l.e.d now
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Led vs Fluorescent Shop Lights
