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| Will it do it? There's 1,000 pigs drinking from it but that's the only thing taking power is the well. I'm short a generator to run all barns and feedmill at the same time during a storm. I'd really like an excuse to get an engine drive welder. |
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Oklahoma | Do you know what well pump you have? A standard 1hp submersible pump may pull 4,000 watts on start up. A 250 engine driven welder is good for up to 10,000ish watts, so unless you have a huge hp pump you should be able to run it easily. |
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| Ok, does it say on it how many watts it pulls or just so many per hp? I'll look when I'm down there. It's variable speed if that helps it not take as much vs start up of a regular motor?
Edited by Abomb 11/20/2017 15:38
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| A 250 Miller Bobcat or Lincoln welder will start and run a 5hp. Motor. The 250 welder is a better buy in my opinion to have around for back up power, than just a regular generator. You can stick, weld and also run a suitcase mig welder off them. Also longer run time as they have a bigger fuel tank. For running as a generator Miller is better than Lincoln. Lincoln welds better, Hobart is a lessor grade Miller. I use my portable welders for backup on wells and houses. |
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| Your well start box should be rated in startup amps, and run amps. |
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| It's a 1hp, forgot what it said for amps I seen it was 1hp and said good enough. I think I've talked myself into it already. |
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| The bobcat says it does mig stick tig and plasma? Or am I misunderstanding? What makes the Miller better as a generator but doesn't weld as good? Currently I just run an old Lincoln ac stick and a Miller 185 mig.
Looks like both the supply stores an hour away sell and service both Miller and Lincoln. Looks like I've got a phone call to make.
Edited by Abomb 11/20/2017 18:24
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Northwest Missouri | Can't go wrong with a Lincoln pipeliner welder. Bought a decent used one this year for $2500. Pretty handy to have around. I'd stay away from the bobcat welders. We had one and it was nothing but junk. But guys have told me they are fine if you aren't pulling them hard for extended periods |
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Faunsdale, AL | Check that the "pipeliner " welder has AC auxiliary power.
Some of the old ones were DC only which would run lights and things like grinders, saws etc that have brushes in the motor, but would not run pumps and other induction motors. |
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North Central Texas | +1. Ac plug on a lincoln doesn't mean it has ac. One of my hands will tell you to never plug the chop saw in the Lincoln from experience. |
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| Have a Miller TRILBLAZER Use it for power backup for whole farm Works great Runs the farm and house
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| I'll play devil's advocate here.
I bought a store-brand 9kw generator from Northern Tool a few years ago and it has plenty of power to to run my 240V stick welder at any amperage I've ever run . $850 and it's been problem free so far. It's been a heck of a good tool for the money (so far). Don't even need long welding leads since my welder is light, portable model so I have a long power cord and put the welder right where I'm working instead.
I don't put a huge amount of hours on it, so I don't know how long it will last, but if you just want something around for repairs, small projects, and emergencies, it's thousands cheaper than buying a welder integrated into the generator.
The only problem is when it's below about 20F it's a little hard starting, but I keep it and my welder inside my retired family cruiser (minivan) so I can always warm it up for a while first when it's real cold out.
Edited by tjdub 11/20/2017 20:28
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| Is your stick welder ac/dc ? If it’s a old cracker box AC no thanks, I buy oilfield pipe and most is magnetized, different game.
Edit; 10,000 is over kill used my welder for 2 months on a place I acquired with a well and electric, had to wait for power company to put in a meter.
One horse 110, which is harder starting than a 220
Edited by Macttle 11/20/2017 20:52
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| Macttle - 11/20/2017 20:49
Is your stick welder ac/dc ? If it’s a old cracker box AC no thanks, I buy oilfield pipe and most is magnetized, different game.
The welder I have is modern DCEN inverter-type. Generator will snort a bit when starting an arc on a high amp setting, but the setup works pretty well. |
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![](/profile/get-photo.asp?memberid=17197&type=profile&rnd=593) West Chazy, New York | In order to run any process besides stick you will need a suitcase for mig and a torch for tig plus the gas tanks unless you run flux core mig. Often the accessories will cost a good percentage of the base unit. One caution; some of the smaller older engine driven units are only 110 so check the plate. I have had Bobcat, Trailblazer, and Lincoln Ranger. All were very good units. There were a ton of older Lincolns made with gas Onan engines. Don't know what model number but a nice compact unit. Great welder but not the best generator as it didn't seem to have as steady voltage as a more modern machine. |
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| Nice, I had experience with my cracker box on generator... never again |
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SC. KS | If you want to spend just a little more money and get a Miller trailblazer the options are a lot more limitless in what you can do with them a TrailBlazer has 2 generators or whatever they are called in them so that the generator and the welder have separate ones. |
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