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Northeast Missouri | In missouri if I am not related to the owner of the farm I am working on, am I legally allowed to drive the farm's semi carrying the farm's corn/beans to market, (an automatic 18 wheeler and 40' hopper bottom) The hauling would be inside the state of missouri and within 100 miles as the crow flies from farm to the elevator. I am reading up on the farm exemptions on the DMV website but am still confused. I have no CDL but have been told I would be exempt from those rules since it is ag related. I currently hold a class F license with a spotless driving record, but do I need to get a Class E (chauffeurs) license? I would go ahead and get the CDL but am not 21 yet. TIA
Edited by FarmGuy97 12/26/2016 22:38
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| You'll get a lot of different answers......but as I understand a class E chauffeur license and possibly a medical card(depending on who you listen to) is all that's required.
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west central illinois | 18 to get a CDL. 21 to go out of state. Get the CDL |
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| My vote. No cdl. Medical card required in a semi no matter what license .you have. If it was a straight truck no medical card or cdl required. As long as you are hauling grain owned by the owner of the truck. |
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NEMO | CDL is a good idea, but you are completely legal the way you are. Quit worrying, non-issue |
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| You do not have to have a cdl. You do have to have a medical card. You do need to get a class e if you are not related. http://www.modot.org/MOAgCarrier/jsp/moAgGloss/FarmerExemptionsBook...
Edited by mizzou96 12/27/2016 04:39
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Maryland | How is the truck tagged? Around here must be farm tagged not apportioned. |
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Southern Pa. | graystonefarms - 12/27/2016 06:33
How is the truck tagged? Around here must be farm tagged not apportioned.
X2. In PA you need a medical card for a straight truck, unless it's under 10,000 lbs., LOL. In PA you cannot drive a farm tagged semi if you are under 18. Straight truck only.
My advice is get a CDL, and medical card, and you will be good for anything except out of state. |
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Farmington, Mo | Look up Map21 exemptions. This new rule changes a lot of the exemptions as of Oct 1, 2012.
In your situation, you need nothing more than the class F even though you are not related. The kicker is if the farmer you are driving for does it "for hire" or beyond 150 air miles from home when going across state lines. So you get the whole state of Missouri plus any adjoining state within the mileage radius.
MODOT MCS has a very helpful link under safety and compliance but here is the link.
http://www.modot.org/mcs/documents/ComparisonChartCurrentRegsvMAP-2... |
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BENTON, MO | Pretty sure that link is obsolete. " But on October 1, 2012, the way certain FMCSRs apply to agricultural operations changed with the implementation of federal reauthorization legislation called Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century."
http://modot.mo.gov/MOAgCarrier/jsp/moAgGloss/MacBookletMap21.html
Large Farm Vehicles
Farm-vehicle-drivers of vehicles with a gross vehicle weight rating of 26,001 pounds or larger driven anywhere in Missouri intrastate commerce or within 150 air-miles of their farm in interstate commerce are exempt from: - The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Regulation regarding drug and alcohol testing, commercial driver license requirements, general driver qualifications and driver qualification files, including the DOT medical certification requirement, driver hours of service, and vehicle maintenance, repair, and inspection requirements. Drivers must still obey applicable state laws regarding age, valid license, etc.
I would advise you to contact your local DOT office for confirmation of this.
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| I have /had CDL since I was 18 (52 now) NEVER had a medical card, drove mostly in MO.
About 3-4 years ago was when you had to have med card to drive out of state.
I just dropped hazmat and tanker certs 2 months ago at renewal, because of retesting and fingerprint requirements, I no longer need either one of those certs.
Edited by tooth and nail 12/27/2016 07:46
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Elsmore, Kansas | U either need a CDL or a Class A Noncommercial license to drive a tractor trailer semi. If u don't want a CDL then get the class A non commercial and stay within the 150 air miles and in the state of Missouri and u will be fine. I learned this first hand from a DOT gift giver! |
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Hutchinson Kansas | Is the testing the same for a commercial A and a non-commercial A? |
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Wi | No, if you operate a covered farm vehicle you are exempt from needing a CDL, Med Card, HOS, and truck inspection. You do not need to be related to the owner. Over 26k has to stay in state or within 150 air miles if crossing state lines.
You should be able to get CDL at 18, just will have a restriction that you cannot cross state lines(farm exemption would overrule this though for farm work) |
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Central Mo | If you are familiar with driving a truck I'd say just get the cdl. If you arent capable of passing then run without , if you get stopped they will let you know. |
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| I believe you need a medical card according to the link Patriot81 posted. See text below directly from that link. Also from first hand experience, Im pretty sure you need a medical card. I got pulled over 1 1/2 yrs ago by a MSHP commercial vehicle enforcement officer(Blue uniform, not one of the brown uniformed DOT guys) He was really nice and asked to see my CDL, medical card, registration, etc. I informed him that I didnt have CDL or medical card because I am using my own truck, hauling my own grain. He said I dont need a CDL but I do need a medical card. I said, no disprespect but we checked with the state about the medical card some time back and were told we didnt need it. He said that was incorrect and that they probably got confused thinking it was for a straight truck which doesnt require a card(like it says in the text below). He said Im sure Im right but for both of our piece of mind he would bring it up on his computer. It took him a minute but it plainly said that with a truck and trailer, I needed to have a medical card even though it is my truck and my grain. He didnt write me a ticket and said if he saw me the next day, he wasnt going to pull me over and write me up but that I should go ahead and get it at my earliest convenience. Another thing to note, shop around for where you get it done. A lot of small offices dont do them because of the certification requirements by the government. I went to the one closest to home. I didnt ask how much it would cost and didnt realize there was a big price difference. I believe it was $180. This was a small town office. I later found out that a larger town with a pretty good size clinic only charged $75 and it was only 20 miles further.
Medical certification is not required for custom
harvesters, bee keepers transporting live bees,
or to the drivers of farm straight trucks (without
trailers) owned and controlled by the farmer
operating within a 150 air-mile radius of the
farm transporting agricultural products, farm
supplies or machinery to or from the farm.
Exception does not apply to for-hire operation
or to vehicles transporting hazardous material
required to be placarded |
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BENTON, MO | You need to look under the other column for the new exemptions.
MAP-21 Exceptions
Drivers of covered farm vehicles are not required to be medically certified. The driver cannot transport products for-hire or transporting placardable hazardous materials.
A covered farm vehicle is described as:
A CDL is not required for drivers of covered farm vehicles after October 1, 2012 under the following conditions. GVWR >26,001 lbs can operate anywhere within the State the vehicle is registered, GVWR >26,001 lbs operating in State(s) other than the registered State are limited to 150 air mile radius from the farm or ranch. The vehicle cannot be used in for-hire operation. The exception does not apply to vehicles required to be placarded for hazardous |
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Elsmore, Kansas | u have to take the written test but no walk around inspection portion and I believe the driving portion is simpler |
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Wi | dri - 12/27/2016 12:25
If you are familiar with driving a truck I'd say just get the cdl. If you arent capable of passing then run without , if you get stopped they will let you know.
Not that simple, a good driver will fail the test. |
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Central Mo | I grandfathered in but took it later anyway when the wife got hers. It's an easy test. Both my boys got it when they turned 18 too. Disclaimer, if you get a difficult dot examiner, well, that would make a difference. |
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Missouri CDL laws
