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Posted 11/17/2015 06:52 (#4901182)
Subject: Mouse bait is old


oregon
I don't know if this is the proper place for this question but I found a bucket of old mouse bait in small packages. I think the active ingredient says "bromodiolone"? It's the green cylindrical pellets, about 1/2 inch long. The bait is not all green like it was originally but has faded toward a brown in spots. Is it any good?
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trailcutter
Posted 11/17/2015 07:49 (#4901300 - in reply to #4901182)
Subject: RE: Mouse bait is old


WC MO
Don't tell the mice.

On a more serious note, my dad taught me that once something is poison it will always be poison. If the mice dont die, it isnt because it is not still poisonous but because they got wise to it and arent eating it.

Edited by trailcutter 11/17/2015 12:04
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Chris
Posted 11/17/2015 07:49 (#4901301 - in reply to #4901182)
Subject: RE: Mouse bait is old



East central Iowa

I found this at http://answers.canadiantire.ca/answers/9045/product/0591935P/wilson-wilson-wilsarin-rat-and-mouse-bait-pellets-questions-answers/questions.htm

Wilson Wilsarin Rat & Mouse Killer does not have an expiry, as long as it is stored correctly in a cool dry location, away from moisture and excessive heat. It may seem difficult to kill rodents with baits because their feeding habits reflect there scavenger eating habits. They will eat a small amount of something and wait to see if they will get sick, if they don’t get sick then they continue to feed. This means that baits must be slow working. Also due to new Federal regulations that will go into place as of as of December 31, 2013, for domestic class anti-coagulant type rodenticides, we presently have two different active ingredients under the Wilson Wilsarin Rat & Mouse Pellets label.

The original active ingredient is Bromadiolone (059-3616-0), which is a single-feed bait. It is an anticoagulants that leads to the disruption of the vitamin K1 cycle, resulting in the inability to produce the essential blood-clotting factors, where death occurs after 1 - 2 weeks post ingestion of the bait. It work on a body weight to bait weight ratio where the rodent must ingest one meal equaling 1/4 to 1/3 of their own body weight. Once a lethal dose has been ingested, it takes 4-5 days for the anticoagulant disruption to begin and they should be dead in 12-14 days. If you are not putting out enough bait or if the bait is being taken and stored the results will be less than ideal. If the rodent droppings have changed to the same colour as the bait then it is a clear indication that the process has begun.

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martin
Posted 11/17/2015 07:56 (#4901320 - in reply to #4901182)
Subject: RE: Mouse bait is old


I don't know the answer to your question.  I did Google "bromodiolone" and found this fact sheet on Bromodiolone.  I thought it was interesting. 

My comment would be: whether it is good or not, I would think the best way to dispose of this would still be to use it in an intended manner.  OR have it disposed of professionally. 

If you don't get an answer to your question any other way, maybe call the National Pesticide Hotline, listed at the top of the Fact sheet.

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Nate B.
Posted 11/17/2015 13:10 (#4901975 - in reply to #4901182)
Subject: RE: Mouse bait is old



Bremen, KS
What's the worst that can happen? More mice?
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a4t-1600
Posted 11/17/2015 13:26 (#4902003 - in reply to #4901975)
Subject: RE: Mouse bait is old


Dearfield Co.
It might give them a immunity to the poison or it might not-----------If you find you have to start cutting them back on how much you feed and their bellys drag the ground you know then what the answer is
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Nate B.
Posted 11/17/2015 18:22 (#4902549 - in reply to #4902003)
Subject: RE: Mouse bait is old



Bremen, KS
Then we'll keep feeding them until they make market weight!
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a4t-1600
Posted 11/17/2015 18:32 (#4902574 - in reply to #4902549)
Subject: RE: Mouse bait is old


Dearfield Co.
I swear I feed more poison weight wise than what I feed the dogs. And they are all big dogs. Occasionally the neighbor stops by and brings his poor fed cats so they can fatten up on our mice and they still dont even put a dent in things. The neighbor that farms on one side of us has been doing a half and half of his ground that is sunflowers and milo. All mice friendly food .


So far the most effective way of dispensing them is the 5 gal bucket traps but the water freezes and makes it a micesickle ----------with the dogs I dont dare use antifreeze and had about 25 gallons of alcohol used to blend with gas but the neighbors cats get way to drunk since they will eat the mice out of the bucket when they hear them splashing so he asked me to stop using that
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teach84
Posted 11/17/2015 21:31 (#4903095 - in reply to #4902574)
Subject: RE: Mouse bait is old


west-byGod-Pa.
I know this is off-point, but see'in as how it is in the ball-park: ...How come I can't get mouse-flavored victuals in the store for my cat. I swear...in all my days I ain't never seen a cat take down a chicken, much less a cow! I assure you, t'ain't never happen that I wuz seen running' to the house screaming' Paw!, Paw! get the gun! I think the cats are trying' t' take down ole Bessie! The point being...chicken & beef & salmon just are not part of the natural program for cats...leastwise not aroun' here!!
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Mike SE IL
Posted 11/18/2015 00:22 (#4903349 - in reply to #4901182)
Subject: RE: Mouse bait is old



West Union, Illinois

I have never had much luck with mouse bait in pellet form.  The chunks they have to chew work.  The pellets they can carry in their mouth and not be affected.  Went on a service call on a big Warm Morning stove one time that was not burning properly.  Took out the burner and poured about half a coffee can full of D-con out of it.



Edited by Mike SE IL 11/18/2015 07:55
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tedbear
Posted 11/18/2015 05:23 (#4903412 - in reply to #4901182)
Subject: RE: Mouse bait is old


Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn.
Be sure to keep the lid on the mouse poison containers so the rats don't get it.
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Obsolete
Posted 11/18/2015 05:55 (#4903437 - in reply to #4901182)
Subject: RE: Mouse bait is old


oregon

Thanks, I appreciate the replies.

The big chunks work better for me also and for the same reason. ^^

It looks like some good information was available through the extension service at my alma mater. That was news to me. Good for them but that football team...........

I've been placing the bait inside of scrap pieces of pipe and placing them along the edges of buildings. A 1" x 4" bait block can completely disappear in a couple of weeks.
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