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cgchris99
Posted 4/12/2014 10:54 (#3811217)
Subject: New Morton, OMG the price


I need a Morton style building for a commercial application. Now I do realize commercial building will be more than a farm building but I had no idea.

A local farmer just had a 60x100 Morton put up for $50k. No insulation and No concrete. I didn't think that was too bad of a price.

Now, my building will need to be 60x180. I've had two visits from the morton rep and don't have a firm figure yet. Here's what they told me. They said to figure $25-$30 per sq/ft. This is for the shell, insulation. No concrete, no excavation yet. On the high end, that's $324,000.

So if I take the price of the friends farm morton building and multiple times 2 because mine is twice as long that's $100k. So insulation and lining the interior walls with steel is $224,000

I figured for a commercial application I would have to add 25% to the price but this is nuts.
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GrainTrader
Posted 4/12/2014 11:02 (#3811230 - in reply to #3811217)
Subject: RE: New Morton, OMG the price



20 Miles West of Indianapolis Indiana
If comparing apples to apples why would commercial cost a dime more them farm? Just sales tax I'd think.... there are 60x120x16 barns with 2 30' sliders advertized in the farm world newspaper for $42k I thought.... I'm considering a 60x80 or 90' barn for now with the idea to add 60x60 shop on one end down the road.
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Ben D, N CA
Posted 4/12/2014 11:16 (#3811245 - in reply to #3811217)
Subject: RE: New Morton, OMG the price



Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot
Different codes and requirements I'd imagine.

Here, an ag building is exempt from building codes, engineering requirments and inspections. It is a good idea to go down and get a $50 permit from the county that says Ag Exempt on everything, that way they know it is an ag building and nothing required. If you put it up yourself you don't even need that.

But commercial buildings are going to require all of that. Even if it is the same building, engineered plans, time to have inspectors sign off, etc, will all add to the costs.

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Galaxie64
Posted 4/12/2014 11:37 (#3811263 - in reply to #3811217)
Subject: RE: New Morton, OMG the price


WY, OK

He didn't get much of a building if it truly cost $50K for that size, even the "cheap" builders haven't made them that cheap for that size for several years.

Morton and the rest of them have a cheap base price but they have almost no snow or wind load and usually 1 man door a window or two and maybe a 10'-12' sliding door.  Start adding for proper wind and snow load and all your doors and windows and it gets pricey fast.  $25-$30/ft got you a turn key building in most cases 2 years ago, shouldn't be much more now.  Shell prices were $8-$10.

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White Workhorse
Posted 4/12/2014 12:57 (#3811347 - in reply to #3811217)
Subject: RE: New Morton, OMG the price


Sourthern WI
Have you tried pricing out steel? Not saying it's going to be leaps and bounds cheaper, but for that size and commercial, it will likely be a better building dollar for dollar.
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cgchris99
Posted 4/12/2014 15:22 (#3811502 - in reply to #3811347)
Subject: RE: New Morton, OMG the price


Yes, I'll be getting a quote on a wick and also a steel building next.
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tomosakis
Posted 4/12/2014 15:55 (#3811537 - in reply to #3811217)
Subject: RE: New Morton, OMG the price


Osakis, MN

Here, in Central Mn the town that I live in a commercial building must have a sprinkler system installed if you are over 5000 square ft.   You are well over the sq. ft., your building might have heavier specs on the engineering for the poles and footings.  Most commercial buildings will have frost footings around the stoops and all exterior doors so they operate in all weather conditions without doors heaving up from frost.  If the building is going to be heated you likely have a insulated styrofoam frost barrier around the perimeter too.

 

Trust me I have witnessed first hand the extra costs of pricing a commercial building.

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packerfan
Posted 4/12/2014 15:58 (#3811540 - in reply to #3811217)
Subject: RE: New Morton, OMG the price


Western illinois
Was it Morton or their Country Craft line? They started the cheaper line a few years ago. I put up a Morton 66x108x16 cold storage in fall of 2011. It was $9/ sq ft for the building only, erected on my prepared site. 33' sliders on one end and a walk in door.
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cgchris99
Posted 4/12/2014 17:26 (#3811609 - in reply to #3811537)
Subject: RE: New Morton, OMG the price


tomosakis - 4/12/2014 15:55

Here, in Central Mn the town that I live in a commercial building must have a sprinkler system installed if you are over 5000 square ft.   You are well over the sq. ft., your building might have heavier specs on the engineering for the poles and footings.  Most commercial buildings will have frost footings around the stoops and all exterior doors so they operate in all weather conditions without doors heaving up from frost.  If the building is going to be heated you likely have a insulated styrofoam frost barrier around the perimeter too.

 

Trust me I have witnessed first hand the extra costs of pricing a commercial building.



In our town, we don't need sprinkler until we reach 12,000 sq/ft
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cotman
Posted 4/12/2014 19:45 (#3811798 - in reply to #3811217)
Subject: RE: New Morton, OMG the price



NW Tennessee

As someone else said, check a steel building. I've got one ordered for $8.19 per sq. ft. It's a machine storage shed, 16' sidewalls, three sides, gutters, and one open end with gable. That said, I don't know where you're located. Your snow load requirements may be a whole lot greater than mine and I'm sure that would make a big difference.



Edited by cotman 4/12/2014 19:48
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durallymax
Posted 4/12/2014 21:09 (#3811936 - in reply to #3811230)
Subject: RE: New Morton, OMG the price


Wi

GrainTrader - 4/12/2014 11:02 If comparing apples to apples why would commercial cost a dime more them farm? Just sales tax I'd think.... there are 60x120x16 barns with 2 30' sliders advertized in the farm world newspaper for $42k I thought.... I'm considering a 60x80 or 90' barn for now with the idea to add 60x60 shop on one end down the road.


Because its not apples to apples, in many areas Ag buildings are exempt from any regulation. Commercial buildings have much more regulation. Even the little things like banister rails with 4" spacing max add up after awhile.  The permitting and such adds hassle and cost as well.  Then theres the runoff regs, fire codes, etc etc. 

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combinejockey
Posted 4/13/2014 11:56 (#3812889 - in reply to #3811217)
Subject: RE: New Morton, OMG the price


The commercial version of my building was going to add 12000 to a 96 x 66 shop...so yes it adds up in a hurry.. Ended up being able to be exempt from that thank god!!! For the timeliness and quality..you will not beat a Morton. They were only 3500 more than the local contractor but no insurance needed during erection, warranty (seen it applied firsthand on cousins shed) and up in 9 working days in the worst winter weather makes for a very satisfied customer. Been selling millions of dollars worth of buildings within a 50 mile radius...
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