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cornholio
Posted 1/9/2010 22:52 (#1013938)
Subject: Sprayers on tracks


Has anyone ever put tracks on a big self-propelled sprayer? Seems like I saw some pictures on here one time but haven't been able to find anything. I'm looking for a way to burn down on soft ground in the spring without doing it by air. I know that duals have been discussed on here recently but that won't work on our row pattern. We currently have a set of 650 floaters for our 4920 but it still makes a mess in the spring. Thanks.
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MOjeeper
Posted 1/9/2010 23:24 (#1014018 - in reply to #1013938)
Subject: Re: Sprayers on tracks



NEMO
I think Gilbert and riplo have a picture of one on there website.
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remmy
Posted 1/9/2010 23:29 (#1014027 - in reply to #1013938)
Subject: RE: Sprayers on tracks


I don't have any info on this setup, I probably got this pic from agtalk somewhere in past years.

Edited by remmy 1/9/2010 23:30




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MOjeeper
Posted 1/9/2010 23:31 (#1014031 - in reply to #1014027)
Subject: Re: Sprayers on tracks



NEMO
That looks like the gilbert and riplo set up.
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agboy
Posted 1/9/2010 23:38 (#1014039 - in reply to #1014027)
Subject: RE: Sprayers on tracks



Flandreau, SD

I talked with the guy the help with this outfit.  It is down in Louisiana.

 

He said you really should have all wheel steer as if don't turn very good with the long tracks in the back.  I would think a JD with more weight in the rear would be worse then the red one.

I think this is still the only one they did and not sure if they still use it.  Email me and I think I have the guys contact info. 

 





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plowboy
Posted 1/10/2010 00:44 (#1014112 - in reply to #1014039)
Subject: RE: Sprayers on tracks



Brazilton KS
Based on my experience with tracks, and my experience with hydrostatic drive, and my experience with sprayers....all seperate...I can't imagine that would work very well. 
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BSchroeder
Posted 1/10/2010 01:03 (#1014122 - in reply to #1014112)
Subject: Re: Sprayers on tracks


Devils Lake, ND
Beat me to it. Keeping the axles under it would not be easy. The hydro should be fine, being "geared down" and all. Of course, you would probably be running in a higher range, which may or may not be a problem.
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farmerboy50
Posted 1/10/2010 01:03 (#1014123 - in reply to #1013938)
Subject: RE: Sprayers on tracks


West Texas
I think tom put a set of duals on his 4920 to work on 38 or 40 inch rows. If not him someone from Mississippi uses a 30 inch spacer to work on one or the other.
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Cliff SEIA
Posted 1/10/2010 01:52 (#1014155 - in reply to #1014122)
Subject: Re: Sprayers on tracks


It's the side stress on the hydro motors I'd be worried about more than the torque needed to turn the tracks.  When that machine is turning there is alot of side load on those hydro motors and I can't imagine they will last very long like that. 
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JohnW
Posted 1/10/2010 02:12 (#1014165 - in reply to #1013938)
Subject: GK Machine...


NW Washington
GK Machine, a small specialty equipment manufacturer in Western Oregon make several sprayers on tracks and belts, including one that looks similar to the one pictured with 4 sets of tracks.

http://gkmachine.com/brochures/4w6.pdf
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scarecrow
Posted 1/10/2010 07:38 (#1014234 - in reply to #1014165)
Subject: RE: GK Machine...


Looks a little like a 785 willmar. It seems to me an articulated sprayer would definatly handle the steering issues better.
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TJG in MS
Posted 1/10/2010 08:23 (#1014261 - in reply to #1013938)
Subject: RE: Sprayers on tracks


Itta Bena Mississippi
I've broke tie rod ends on my 4920 running in less than perfect conditions with 480-50 tires. JD updated them and I've had no more trouble. BUT, I don't believe it they could turn tracks in anything but sloppy conditions. I run duals on the back, leery about them on the front due to tie rod ends. The duals make a big difference, but I had to build my own spacers. Talked to a company up north that builds them, but they didn't build or recomend them for wide rows. They do improve the mobility greatly, but I still have to wait to burndown longer than I like.
Sounds like you have the same problem as I; an expensive sprayer and still a gigantic flying bill. It's hard to grow irrigated cotton or anythingelse in the Delta and get away from the airplane. Tom
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agboy
Posted 1/10/2010 09:19 (#1014362 - in reply to #1014112)
Subject: RE: Sprayers on tracks



Flandreau, SD

forgot.

 

42% speed reduction with the tracks. 

 

 

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cornholio
Posted 1/10/2010 09:40 (#1014403 - in reply to #1014261)
Subject: Re: Sprayers on tracks


Yep. Got a big heavy sprayer that I can't do anything with most springs then poly pipe or a pivot sitting across about half the fields during summer insect season. Starting to wonder how I'm justifying the sprayer.
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wheaties
Posted 1/10/2010 10:08 (#1014454 - in reply to #1013938)
Subject: RE: Sprayers on tracks


If you want tracks on a sprayer, I think the best option would be to purchase a used tracked tractor and mount a 3 pt boom on it with the saddle tanks.
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rice-and-hogs
Posted 1/10/2010 12:29 (#1014729 - in reply to #1014454)
Subject: Re: Sprayers on tracks


Guys, I'm seeing the same thing. I was penciling an new 4730 this fall. I've got too many rice acres to really use it alot, but I'm using the plane on alot of soybean acres seems like so, I bought 2 demco 80' booms and only put the front 400 gallon tanks on to keep them light to apply valor this fall. Worked out decent on the fields I didn't get worked, that wernt rutted too bad. There looks to be a large weight difference in the 47 vs 4930 sprayers, would the smaller sprayer fit the bill?
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plowboy
Posted 1/10/2010 12:31 (#1014732 - in reply to #1014362)
Subject: RE: Sprayers on tracks



Brazilton KS

Yeah, that's fine and dandy if you run 42% slower.  But who is going to run a sprayer 42% slower?  What you are really going to want to do is run in transport range so that you can run at normal spraying speed. 

 

 

 

I was going to use that sig line the first time I heard it.....but I figured the one I had was only a few days old so I'd wait!

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agboy
Posted 1/10/2010 12:50 (#1014759 - in reply to #1014732)
Subject: RE: Sprayers on tracks



Flandreau, SD

I went and bought Dark Horse and then the flippin cd player in the pickup don't work! 

 

First cd I bought in prolly 5 years and then the dang player don't work.  O'well, sounds good in Kari's Armada!  

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spudsco
Posted 1/10/2010 14:12 (#1014950 - in reply to #1014729)
Subject: Re: Sprayers on tracks


SWMN
You could put 710-70-42 tires on that sprayer. Depending on how wet you are it still might not be 100% fix to your problem. Weight and mud never go good with each other.
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TJG in MS
Posted 1/10/2010 14:14 (#1014954 - in reply to #1014403)
Subject: Re: Sprayers on tracks


Itta Bena Mississippi
Brother tells me that on a regular basis. It still pays for itself, but it would be nice if it could save some also. If it wasn't for the @#&*!dam plantbugs, july-august wouldn't be such an issue.
Tossing around the idea of one of these hotrod rear mounted booms to run on the track tractor. On the amount of acres to be burned down, it shows to work on paper, and if only used for burndown, 2,4-D would be less an issue. Tom

Edited by TJG in MS 1/10/2010 14:19
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farmerboy50
Posted 1/10/2010 14:16 (#1014957 - in reply to #1014954)
Subject: Re: Sprayers on tracks


West Texas
In my area this is the first time wide spread spraying of plant bugs occurred. Looks like they will take the place of the old boll worm spraying!
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TJG in MS
Posted 1/10/2010 14:21 (#1014973 - in reply to #1014957)
Subject: Re: Sprayers on tracks


Itta Bena Mississippi
That is exactly what has happened here. Tom
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NCfarmer
Posted 1/10/2010 14:58 (#1015071 - in reply to #1013938)
Subject: RE: Sprayers on tracks



Aurora, NC
I saw this one in New York around Elba



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plowboy
Posted 1/10/2010 15:15 (#1015115 - in reply to #1014759)
Subject: RE: Sprayers on tracks



Brazilton KS

CD Player?

 

What's that?

 

I skipped that whole technology stage....went straight from cassette to thumb drive mp3

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JohnW
Posted 6/10/2010 02:14 (#1231229 - in reply to #1013938)
Subject: GK Machine


NW Washington
There is a small specialty equipment manufacturer in Western Oregon who makes several sprayers on tracks. I am pretty sure their 4 track rig is articulated. http://gkmachine.com/?sec=products&id=equip_sprayers

I think this outfit in close to Old Pokey's digs.
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