Could the packers be running this cattle market into the ground? Are they that powerful? It all started almost to the day when the law suit was filed against them. I know we have a pull back this time of year but not like this. This is brutal. All you hear is how meats are going to be higher, even Tyson gave better guidance and said beef, chicken and hogs would be higher in the coming months. I still think they are running it down as far as they can for the big move.