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Ohio_farmer
Posted 9/26/2018 17:43 (#7010602)
Subject: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?


West central Ohio
Looked at a low houred 260 today. '13 model i believe. Drove it around the dealers lot a bit, seemed to shift awfully hard, is that normal on these tractors?
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Greasemonkey18
Posted 9/26/2018 17:45 (#7010609 - in reply to #7010602)
Subject: RE: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?


I have a '13 280. Only have 260 hrs on it but I don't think it shifts any harder than my old boxcars.
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thefarmers
Posted 9/26/2018 17:50 (#7010619 - in reply to #7010602)
Subject: RE: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?


Probably a lot of difference between a 13 and our 946, but our old one shifts hard.
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Greasemonkey18
Posted 9/26/2018 17:51 (#7010620 - in reply to #7010619)
Subject: RE: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?


Yea I have a 946 that jars your teeth lol. '13 is definitely more refined.
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TLfarmer
Posted 9/26/2018 18:18 (#7010669 - in reply to #7010619)
Subject: RE: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?


Central ND
A 260 is a front wheel assist. Whole different animal than an older versy 4wd
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Recce7
Posted 9/26/2018 18:48 (#7010725 - in reply to #7010602)
Subject: RE: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?


NE Indiana
Re-calibrating the transmission may help with shifting.

The good:

Price. 30% cheaper then the equivalent Deere; or, the capability of an 8R at the price of a 7R.
Cummins engine, Cat transmission
Very simple tractors, but they do have some creature comforts.

The bad/ugly:

Poor fit and finish compared to competitors.
Weak tie rod ends may require an upgrade to run front duals.
Rather silly electrical issues sometimes occur (multiple failed HVAC modules or loose female pins on fuse board failing to provide power, for instance)
Poor resale value; popular only in certain regions.


I think they are a good choice for budget conscious farmer that needs a high horse row crop tractor or for big operations that employ steering wheel holders.

Versatile is good about addressing problems and issuing campaigns (product improvement programs).
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reedfarmer
Posted 9/26/2018 19:21 (#7010810 - in reply to #7010602)
Subject: RE: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?


Eastern Arkansas
I bought 4 310 this year. Traded 4 John Deere 8310R in. 2013 was the first year for them. I would look for a later model one. They have made quite a few upgrades. Supposedly the 15 and up have better electronics. Mine have the suspended front axle it is worth getting. Rides as good as a John Deere ILS. And a lot simpler.


So far I have been impressed. Everything I need and nothing I don’t. It is a little rougher finish in the cab, but the massive cab makes up for it. I like the field cruise, set it at 1800 rpm and it increases fuel as load increases to try and keep it there. It makes peak power at 1800 so there is no nead to run it higher.


The controls take a little getting used to. They are not very intuitive.

The transmission is a Univance. Shifts a little rougher than Deere but not much. It’s supposedly a copy of the Deere transmission.

As far as power, the 310 will smoke an 8310R and will run with an 8360R no problem.

I got 5 year warranty and got into them cheap. I have a very good dealer and am not worried about keeping them going. Time will tell how they hold up.
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modal
Posted 9/26/2018 19:53 (#7010879 - in reply to #7010602)
Subject: RE: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?


southwest north dakota
Seen 2014 220 with loader on it, it had 800 hours on it. tractor in like new shape sell for 81k, thought that was poor resale on it.
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reedfarmer
Posted 9/26/2018 20:09 (#7010926 - in reply to #7010879)
Subject: RE: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?


Eastern Arkansas
That would have been the older Genesis line. Completely different tractor. I don’t think they made a 220 in 2014.
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thefarmers
Posted 9/26/2018 20:10 (#7010927 - in reply to #7010669)
Subject: RE: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?


Oh. I see hard shifting as in jumpy, not actually hard to shift.
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roush9799
Posted 9/26/2018 20:23 (#7010963 - in reply to #7010602)
Subject: RE: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?



West Central IL

Have the 4x4 version, '16 400.  Cab is the same, here's what I've experienced. 

The Bad--Starter went out the other day. 900+/- hours.  Also had an issue with losing power to the right side console, especially when getting out of the seat.  Think I fixed it by moving some wires around and plugging and unplugging some connectors.  Had a hose rub through on the driveline on the rear of the engine.  It has an oil leak at the bottom of the oil reservoir I can't get completely stopped.  The transmission lock button is agevating when using on a grain cart.  I finally put a 1/4" nut over it and wrapped tape around the shifter to hold it in.  My finger no longer gets sore shifting from a stop, or forward/back now.  Tricky to set the hydraulics if you want them timed until you figure out to cycle all the way through after setting them.  A/C is a little finiky, OEM parts are high, I actually bought the air filters half price at Deere for ours.  Big door that will hit you in the head until you get used to it, only takes a couple wacks.  Stock autotrac is junk, order without and install something else.  We put Trimble in ours.

The Good-- Large cab, Comfy heated/cooled seat.  Excellent sound system.  Good layout for hydraulic control buttons.  Great visibility, Easy to service, cheaper to buy/lease, we leased this one.


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seed farmer
Posted 9/26/2018 22:01 (#7011246 - in reply to #7010602)
Subject: RE: Versatile tractors- good, bad and ugly?


i noticed they have the same suspension as agco uses do they have cab suspension? when they get a cvt i think they would be nice
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