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sj3788 |
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swohio | Know what the book says, change when loosing power. For me has never happened. So I have changed both filters every 2/3 years. Just don't want to be changing filters when busy time is here. Tractors only get about 100 hrs. a year. Could I go longer, a lot longer than I am? Am I just wasting money changing them this often? Thanks. | ||
jd4930 |
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Central ND | We usually don't change until we notice a power issue unless they are 500+ hours and then it's just if it happens to be in the shop and we notice it.....Right? Wrong? Idk but that's how it happens here.;-) Edited by jd4930 3/22/2017 20:40 | ||
kirk |
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Dills, FL | filters work better and better until they can't deliver what needs delivering further down the line. | ||
DestinedforDiesel |
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Change once a year here. It's easy to remember and you know your starting on a fresh filter every spring. For constant use tractors, maybe regular intervals or until they run out of power. Usually gelling causes me to change them at least once during the winter | |||
mac4440 |
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Same here | |||
farmall53 |
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upstate New York | I change every filter in the winter on our equipment regardless the hours so when it's time to run I know everything is turn key reliable, I know I could probably go longer but it's cheaper to do preventive maintenance vs the cost of equipment going down when ya need it most and having hired help standing around for a 50$ part .... even the hydraulic filter on our bailer gets changed | ||
John e.c.MI |
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Croswell, Michigan | Every year. | ||
Jd7730 |
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SE MN | I used to change them once a year or as needed. Now on the newer stuff with $100 plus filter kits I change them only as needed, even if it's well over a year. | ||
German Shepherd |
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Every other year on the tractors, every year on the combines. | |||
highwood |
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Watrous, Saskatchewan | Change ours everytime we change the engine oil. Had a mechanic recommend that too. | ||
Tfox |
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On average every 2 years Notice the stuff that gets filled with service trailer tank usually need it more often then units that pull exclusively off the main storage tank. | |||
richard240 |
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jackson county WI | Every other time we change oil, so roughly 300hrs. Engines starving for fuel (and they are starving before you feel a problem) cause problems. | ||
billonthefarm |
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Farmington IL | On the tractors that run to feed livestock every day in the winter time, they get changed every fall before cold weather sets in. On the feed wagon tractor that means about 600 hours, loader tractor 400, bale processor 150 hours. Tractors that do field work, usually get to feeling bad about not changing them around 500 hours and put new ones on, some of the older tractors get changed after 4-6 years with few hours. | ||
PETERSON PERFORMANCE |
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SESD | Change ours every year or 100 hrs with engine oil, which ever comes first. | ||
redneckfarmer |
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missouri | my newer massey tractor 700 hours it will plug up every time. dads 6400 deere is about every 500 hours it plugs up and his older masseys (1105-2705-275) never ever plug up. | ||
ricb |
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Puckerville Dead center N.Y. | Change ours when they need it. Some once a year some I don'the remember the last time I did them. There is a wide range in hours too. Some tractorspecial get 1,000 hrs a year some run 250. Every oil change at 150 hrs is overkill in my opinion however i've never changed the oil at 150 hrs either. What works for one may not work for everyone. | ||
RickB |
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Lincoln County. NC | billonthefarm - 3/22/2017 22:17 On the tractors that run to feed livestock every day in the winter time, they get changed every fall before cold weather sets in. On the feed wagon tractor that means about 600 hours, loader tractor 400, bale processor 150 hours. Tractors that do field work, usually get to feeling bad about not changing them around 500 hours and put new ones on, some of the older tractors get changed after 4-6 years with few hours. When I farmed, fuel filters got changed in the Fall so they were winter ready. Now my 2 tractors here at home get fuel filters in the Fall so they are winter ready. I hate cold weather fuel issues that are 100% preventable. | ||
jcwag |
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Upstate Ny | I go about 4-5 years. They very rarely bother if you have clean fuel. | ||
Bern |
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Mount Vernon, WA | sj3788 - 3/22/2017 17:35 Know what the book says, change when loosing power. Book says to change filters when you start loosing power? Maybe under the troubleshooting section. It must also give a recommendation for hours or time. | ||
Tech man |
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The desert of MN. | Letting them go until you start to loose power means you are low on fuel pressure. Low fuel pressure leads to cavitation and injector failure. Fuel filters are cheap compared to injectors and a service call. | ||
Big Ben |
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Columbia Basin, Ephrata, WA | Bern - 3/23/2017 06:31 sj3788 - 3/22/2017 17:35 Know what the book says, change when loosing power. Book says to change filters when you start loosing power? Maybe under the troubleshooting section. It must also give a recommendation for hours or time. Don't count on it. I have one machine where the book specifically says not to change a filter until the system senses it is getting too restricted and throws a code. I think the theory is that every time someone opens up a system to change a filter is a chance for contamination to get directly into the system, so the less frequently it's opened the better. Not filling landfills with still-good filters is another nice benefit. | ||
mearsy74 |
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Bothwell ont | Every 100 hrs for $14 on my old stuff | ||
gmark |
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mid Illinois | I generally dont change anything until I notice a problem, but then again everything I have is mechanical Bosch pumps. Was looking at my 2590 Case, and I bet those filters are close to 20 years old now, and still no loss of power. | ||
mac4440 |
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tell me how that causes injector failure, especially on mechanical systems. | |||
mac4440 |
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sounds like you need a new mechanic. does he sell filters on the side? If you have clean fuel, they may go for a long time without needing changed. | |||
mac4440 |
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Explain that please. That is how diesel engines are regulated, by the flow of fuel. more fuel, more power. less fuel less power. explain what problems it causes. | |||
Illinois Steve |
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North Central Illinois | That is a common recommendation for newer tractors with fuel systems with extremely tight tolerances. I can't explain the logic to you but have had the same recommendation from three different service managers from three different colors. Any of our newer stuff gets fuel filters changed when oil is changed. With the higher service intervals for oil on newer equipment changing fuel filters at the same time is really no big deal. In many cases it is only once a year. | ||
rollinsorchards |
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Garland Maine | mac4440 - 3/23/2017 18:00 Explain that please. That is how diesel engines are regulated, by the flow of fuel. more fuel, more power. less fuel less power. explain what problems it causes. Two things: Most problematic is injector pump starving for fuel. That means the innards of the injector pump are turning with no fuel for cooling or lubrication. Second fuel injected into cylinders provides a cooling effect. Some racing engines go so far as to inject water also for cooling. Running lean on some cylinders while normal on others can cause overheating. | ||
redneckfarmer |
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missouri | gmark - 3/23/2017 11:40 I generally dont change anything until I notice a problem, but then again everything I have is mechanical Bosch pumps. Was looking at my 2590 Case, and I bet those filters are close to 20 years old now, and still no loss of power. i can top the 20 years lol dads 1980 275 massey filter is still painted gray from the factory never lost power and never had the injectors or pump off of it he bought it new but the hour meter hasnt worked for ever it shows 5700 and im 27 and never remember it working. so are we really gaining any thing with these newer low tolerance fuel systems | ||
oldbones |
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Floyd County, Iowa | Right or wrong, I change mine every 3-4 years. I put on similar hours as you. I also change hydraulic filters on the tractors every year, every other year on the combine (it only gets 50 hours/year). Oil & filter every spring or 100 hours, whichever comes first. | ||
mac4440 |
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That is true, hadn't thought about the extended oil change intervals on newer equipment | |||
mac4440 |
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rollinsorchards - 3/23/2017 16:39 mac4440 - 3/23/2017 18:00 Explain that please. That is how diesel engines are regulated, by the flow of fuel. more fuel, more power. less fuel less power. explain what problems it causes. Two things: Most problematic is injector pump starving for fuel. That means the innards of the injector pump are turning with no fuel for cooling or lubrication. Second fuel injected into cylinders provides a cooling effect. Some racing engines go so far as to inject water also for cooling. Running lean on some cylinders while normal on others can cause overheating. If the injection pump is starving for fuel, its not going to run much. If its turning with no fuel, how does the engine run? That little mist of fuel isn't providing cooling either. ITS BURNING. Its not water. This isn't a race or pulling engine, day and night difference from an everyday work horse. | |||
RickB |
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Lincoln County. NC | mac4440 - 3/23/2017 22:48 rollinsorchards - 3/23/2017 16:39 mac4440 - 3/23/2017 18:00 Explain that please. That is how diesel engines are regulated, by the flow of fuel. more fuel, more power. less fuel less power. explain what problems it causes. Two things: Most problematic is injector pump starving for fuel. That means the innards of the injector pump are turning with no fuel for cooling or lubrication. Second fuel injected into cylinders provides a cooling effect. Some racing engines go so far as to inject water also for cooling. Running lean on some cylinders while normal on others can cause overheating. If the injection pump is starving for fuel, its not going to run much. If its turning with no fuel, how does the engine run? That little mist of fuel isn't providing cooling either. ITS BURNING. Its not water. This isn't a race or pulling engine, day and night difference from an everyday work horse. It's pretty well documented that if an IP is starving for fuel it is subject to increased wear. Not a new concept, or something that Rollins just made up. | ||
Illinois Steve |
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North Central Illinois | Yes if I were being advised to change fuel filters every 100 to 200 hours that would be a tougher pill to swallow. We have always changed fuel filters annually even if we weren't at the hour threshold. Just cheap insurance against a problem while in the heat of battle. | ||
TooDeep |
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NE ND | Every Spring the 4WDs, 2WDs and combines get changed. | ||
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