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Buz Brandes
Posted 1/29/2017 18:15 (#5803159)
Subject: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


Southeast Ohio
Has anyone tried running the Calmer rolls without Calmers sprockets, deck plates, and trash knives? Wondering if the entire Calmer systems is a "must" or just an option.

Thanks
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DAN SEWI
Posted 1/29/2017 18:20 (#5803177 - in reply to #5803159)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


I run a JD 893 with the rolls, sprockets, and deck plates. Depending what your goals are, I would rate the rolls the most important closely followed by the sprockets and the deck plates last. I do not have his trash knives. I really like how much less trash (leaves and stalks) goes through the combine with these parts. I bave not run a 600 series head to see if they are better than a 40-90 series for that.
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jhal
Posted 1/29/2017 18:31 (#5803211 - in reply to #5803159)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


WC Iowa
First year with only the calmer rolls on a stock 608 non chopping head. Very happy with them.
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cbiers
Posted 1/29/2017 18:36 (#5803225 - in reply to #5803159)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?



I agree the rolls are most important, then sprockets then deck plates. At this time we only have the rolls on ours
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Black Dirt88
Posted 1/29/2017 18:45 (#5803250 - in reply to #5803159)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


SE Iowa
Last Fall I just brought the Bt chopper rolls and I had great luck with them. I be thinking about buying deck plates. My cornhead is Case ih 2206.
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Busted Knuckles
Posted 1/29/2017 19:18 (#5803341 - in reply to #5803159)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


Southeast Minnesota
Just an option.
We only have the rolls and don't plan on anything else.
CIH 2208

Edited by Busted Knuckles 1/29/2017 19:19
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Fingers77
Posted 1/29/2017 19:19 (#5803346 - in reply to #5803159)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?



You don't need his weed knives. We used Deere knives. I can't remember which ones, but they weren't the ones the stock rolls used.

90 series head.

We have the slow down kit and chopping rolls only. We also like his chains made by Drives, we get more acres out of them than any others we have tried over the years.

We felt the deck plates he sells butt shell worse in our situation.
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Byron ECIN
Posted 1/29/2017 19:43 (#5803434 - in reply to #5803346)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


United States
I installed Calmer BT Chopper Rolls only I used my grass knifes I didn't change sprocket or deck plates very happy with it this way , It may be worth changing and installing the complete kit, this is on a John Deere 608C head . Sure chops corn stalks !

Byron EcIn .
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Deere6
Posted 1/29/2017 20:21 (#5803568 - in reply to #5803177)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


Not to hijack the thread but if you don't mind me asking how much did it cost to do the 893? Ours is getting close to needing rebuilt and looking at options other than the stock JD.
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DAN SEWI
Posted 1/29/2017 21:15 (#5803787 - in reply to #5803568)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


Sorry but I do not recall. It was six or seven years ago. Prices may have changed some since then too.
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hobby95
Posted 1/29/2017 21:22 (#5803802 - in reply to #5803341)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


SW MINNESOTA
Been thinking of doing a 2208 or 2408 as well. Will be on an 8010. How fast do you feel you can drive before chopping performance gets too bad? Have also considered a 12 row and slowing down but it's nice with the 8 to be able to go 3/4 of a round and dump in cart on way to truck most times.
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panfisch
Posted 1/29/2017 21:29 (#5803813 - in reply to #5803159)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


Brown county, mn
360 yield center just released rolls that work the same as calmer BT I think their charging $1200 per row.

https://360yieldcenter.com/products/360-chainroll/

Edited by panfisch 1/29/2017 21:30
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SilverClayON
Posted 1/29/2017 21:33 (#5803824 - in reply to #5803813)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


SW Ontario
Talking with a guy that went to a demo day with the chainrolls said they're not even close in performance for sizing stalks. Said looked like old Deere rolls. They now have a set or calmers on their head. my two pennies
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balefire
Posted 1/29/2017 22:07 (#5803904 - in reply to #5803159)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?



Oxford County, ON
We put the Calmer chopping rolls on our otherwise stock 893 last year and it made a huge difference. Needed to replace chains and sprockets this winter so I priced out the Calmer slow down kit.
After I regained consciousness, I ordered new 'stock' sprockets from Shoup for all 8 rows for what it would've cost to convert 2-3 rows to Calmer.
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hobby95
Posted 1/29/2017 22:45 (#5803949 - in reply to #5803904)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


SW MINNESOTA
I thought a while back someone mentioned another source for the slowdown kit. May have had to get parts from more than one source but if I remember they were quite a bit cheaper.
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Fingers77
Posted 1/30/2017 06:43 (#5804172 - in reply to #5803949)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?



From what I could find at one time a few years ago a company did make them, but Marion sent them a nice cease and desist letter because he has the patent on some part of what they were making.

I couldn't find them, but there was IIRC a thread here about that.
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Busted Knuckles
Posted 1/30/2017 07:05 (#5804202 - in reply to #5803802)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


Southeast Minnesota
hobby95 - 1/29/2017 21:22

Been thinking of doing a 2208 or 2408 as well. Will be on an 8010. How fast do you feel you can drive before chopping performance gets too bad? Have also considered a 12 row and slowing down but it's nice with the 8 to be able to go 3/4 of a round and dump in cart on way to truck most times.


I feel that chopping quality starts to taper off above 4.5 mph. Of course it also depends on the variety. This last year, I had 1 variety that left long stalks and another that turned to confetti no matter what speed I went.
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jmiller
Posted 1/30/2017 16:41 (#5805301 - in reply to #5804172)
Subject: RE: Calmer BT chopper rolls with otherwise stock head?


West central Ohio
http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=648593&mid=544...
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