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dittfarms
Posted 4/27/2016 20:57 (#5267717)
Subject: Rail road ties or other corner posts


ottertail co mn
Anyone know how to buy a semi load of rail road ties?

Or is there a better corner post that I should be looking for?

I am a newbie when it comes to fencing. My goal is to build a heavy duty fence. My neighbors have crappy fence and I don't wanna be like them...
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Emken
Posted 4/27/2016 21:05 (#5267743 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Flat rock, Illinois
Do you have hedge trees in MN? If so get your saw out. I would put a good hedge post up against a tie any day! Crooked ones even give you fence character. Ha
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justbad7
Posted 4/27/2016 21:08 (#5267749 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts



Northwest kansas
We use pulled out power line poles. They are very good size and already have a good layer of protectant on them. Railroad ties last maybe 5-10 years for us. Haven't replaced a pole yet
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Direct Injected
Posted 4/27/2016 21:15 (#5267785 - in reply to #5267749)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


SW, Missouri
I would never consider a tie for posts. "Here" they just don't last.
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NorthernCattle
Posted 4/27/2016 21:22 (#5267817 - in reply to #5267749)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


NE Minnesota
Railroad ties will be excellent for you especially if you want a semi load. You can't buy directly from Burlington Northern as they use a contractor who gets their used ties. There is a tie processor in Duluth. Maybe there is a processor closer to Fargo. Give me couple days to get a number for you.
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lynn
Posted 4/27/2016 21:25 (#5267825 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


NE IA
Find new ones then you have a long term post
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dittfarms
Posted 4/27/2016 21:33 (#5267858 - in reply to #5267743)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


ottertail co mn
We must not have hedge trees cuz I don't know what they are. I cut around 20 to 30 chord of wood a year.
Thanks
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dittfarms
Posted 4/27/2016 21:35 (#5267866 - in reply to #5267785)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


ottertail co mn
They last quite well here. 30-40 years is not out to f the question.
Thanks
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dittfarms
Posted 4/27/2016 21:37 (#5267876 - in reply to #5267817)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


ottertail co mn
That would be great. I would like #1 or 2.

They are getting hard to find around here so I figured I could be the outlet around here. I will need half a semi load myself.

Thanks for your help.
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O.u.and.direct
Posted 4/27/2016 21:41 (#5267890 - in reply to #5267825)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Southwest Missouri
Hedge or steel pipe here nothing else is even considered
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jedstivers
Posted 4/27/2016 21:42 (#5267895 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts



Marianna Arkansas
Steel only. Nothing else considered.
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kzks
Posted 4/27/2016 21:59 (#5267954 - in reply to #5267895)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


A big ol hedge post will last a 100 yrs
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ntexcotton
Posted 4/27/2016 22:01 (#5267961 - in reply to #5267895)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


North Central Texas
+1 steel only.
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MeadowlandsBeef
Posted 4/27/2016 22:03 (#5267963 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts



Northern Minnesota

I have used over a semi load of railroad ties as corner post.  Got them for free when they abandoned a local track, so they were used.  Most are going on about 30 years.  Replaced only one.  Not due to rot but my (un)controlled ditch grass fire!

Free post.  30 years.  Stout.  No welding.  What's not to like....?

Maybe they last longer up here cause they are sitting in frozen ground (and not rotting) one third of the year!!? 

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tbeck
Posted 4/27/2016 22:09 (#5267980 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts



Culbertson, MT
I generally use ties. Just bought 4 bundles (16 per) for $12.95, from salvage company out of Colorado. They were along the main line just south of me. Heavy as he11, should be good #1's. I have some pipe we plan to use this year, have only used it in the corral in past. Here's a tip to help a tie (or any good wood post) last: use gravel to back fill. The moisture will wick away, and easy to tamp! I have some in my corral that are set that way, have been there for 35 years and still solid.
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Iowadad
Posted 4/27/2016 22:10 (#5267984 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Doon Sawmill handles new and used, if you can use a whole load you can usually get them cheaper and shipped right to you.
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tbeck
Posted 4/27/2016 22:26 (#5268038 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: not sure where Kief ND is from you, but



Culbertson, MT
http://www.bismanonline.com/kief_nd/rail_road_ties_7_85
$10/tie
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GCAT
Posted 4/27/2016 22:36 (#5268054 - in reply to #5267954)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Eastern Kansas
There must be a lot of folks who don't know what hedge is, or that hedge trees don't grow in their neck of the woods.
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Macttle
Posted 4/27/2016 22:52 (#5268087 - in reply to #5268054)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Steels cheaper than hedge now unless you have your own hedge row
#1 steel
2 hedge
3 cresote
4 power poles
I will never plant another tie here
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outdoorswede
Posted 4/27/2016 22:59 (#5268096 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


NW MN
Tie will last a long time up this way. Erskine Rail Car has them. $4 a tie (last year) loose. Otherwise Gully Coop has 16 in a bundle on a pallet for about $160 a bundle
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Badger
Posted 4/27/2016 23:03 (#5268102 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Huntley Montana

I have been selling a few, Got #1s @ $15.

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Ben
Posted 4/28/2016 04:14 (#5268189 - in reply to #5267963)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


North Mo.
frozen ground (and not rotting) one third of the year!! Be my guess gosh 30 years doesn't seem that long to me, that would mean I have to replace what I put in after the Army. Gee still using Hedge,Osage Orange from World war 2 times.
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BlueDriller
Posted 4/28/2016 05:38 (#5268217 - in reply to #5268054)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


This guy (me) has no idea what hedge is.
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mn2
Posted 4/28/2016 06:50 (#5268320 - in reply to #5268102)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Built our home fence in 1976, used new 6" creosote posts. Fence and posts great shape yet! 40 years!
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gavogel
Posted 4/28/2016 07:12 (#5268365 - in reply to #5267895)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Marion,ks

Buy pipe and cement them in . That's all we do now,I am tired of replacing Hedge corner posts. Rail road ties and used utility poles are even worse than hedge. Pipe is way easier to work with and does not burn .We burn our pastures off on a regular basis and lose a hedge corner post about every year.

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cmay
Posted 4/28/2016 07:28 (#5268406 - in reply to #5267876)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


western OK panhandle
go with # 1s or whatever the grade is above number one.
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ben5398
Posted 4/28/2016 07:52 (#5268464 - in reply to #5268217)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts



Central Illinois
BlueDriller - 4/28/2016 04:38

This guy (me) has no idea what hedge is.


I am amazed how few know hedge. It is all I would use if I had enough access, and I was not ocd. We have a small 150 ft row left. Look up osage orange. It is the only fence you put in the ground once for 2 generations of farming. Dont know how the stuff does it but it wont rot and will outlast most metal posts.

The OCD part comes from it never being even kind of straight. If you could make the stuff straight it would be #1 for everyone.

Edited by ben5398 4/28/2016 07:53
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jedstivers
Posted 4/28/2016 08:35 (#5268585 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts



Marianna Arkansas
Unless your in a area with rocks use steel and drive them in. Faster and eaiser and cheaper in the long run.
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dittfarms
Posted 4/28/2016 09:53 (#5268791 - in reply to #5268096)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


ottertail co mn
Thanks
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feelnrite
Posted 4/28/2016 09:57 (#5268800 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


northwest tennessee

We have a big place here that treats ties and sells to the railroad. I used to be able to buy seconds that were treated for brace posts. They would weigh about 200 pounds or more and were good posts. Now they wont sell treated posts anymore for putting in the ground because of the EPA. You can buy untreated but I don't do that.

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Jim
Posted 4/28/2016 09:58 (#5268802 - in reply to #5268585)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Driftless SW Wisconsin

Jed, when you and the others above talk about "steel" fence corner posts, what type of "steel" posts are you talking about? 3" oil pipe? galvanized or bare?

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daddycal
Posted 4/28/2016 10:09 (#5268828 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Montana
Klamert at Fort rockvale Montana has ties but that is a long way to haul. I like upset pipe 2 and 7/8 and then fasten galvanized wire panels between them. Make two 8 foot braces from one 16 foot panel. I suggest if you use pipe you cap them there to keep water out.

I can share pictures if you want.
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Direct Injected
Posted 4/28/2016 11:32 (#5269020 - in reply to #5268802)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


SW, Missouri
Jim - 4/28/2016 09:58

Jed, when you and the others above talk about "steel" fence corner posts, what type of "steel" posts are you talking about? 3" oil pipe? galvanized or bare?

here is a pic



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jedstivers
Posted 4/28/2016 17:20 (#5269786 - in reply to #5269020)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts



Marianna Arkansas
Direct Injected - 4/28/2016 10:32

Jim - 4/28/2016 09:58

Jed, when you and the others above talk about "steel" fence corner posts, what type of "steel" posts are you talking about? 3" oil pipe? galvanized or bare?

here is a pic

Jim that's exactly the size and kind and way we build them.
I bet my pipe comes from the same place direct gets his too.
I can't remember the exact sizes we use though.
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dittfarms
Posted 4/28/2016 17:34 (#5269810 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


ottertail co mn
Found a load thanks to all you ag talkers!!!
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Jim
Posted 4/28/2016 23:31 (#5270806 - in reply to #5269786)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Driftless SW Wisconsin

Thanks.

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Nebraska Sandhiller
Posted 5/1/2016 10:58 (#5275549 - in reply to #5268054)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


NNW Nebraska
No hedge grown around here. I have planted a lot of them, but anymore, they are really expensive around here. A local dealer handles them, but price is same as a creosote. If not using a post driver, I would use hedge.

Also it is almost impossible to get hired help to set them so they look half decent.
Lots of guys are going to post drivers & I doubt hedge would work good for that.

Would hate to have to redo fence corners made with rr ties. Any fence I redo, I don't plan on having to redo it again in my lifetime.
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Nebraska Sandhiller
Posted 5/1/2016 11:24 (#5275607 - in reply to #5267717)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


NNW Nebraska
If you are set on rr ties, the hard ones like oak don't seem to last as good. My guess is that the creosote does not soak in as well.

If you want a fence thst will last, use hedge for corners, and build good box corners. If the wires stay tight, that is the main thing in a good fence. If you use hedge for line post, drill a hole through the post to fasten wire with. Run a piece of high tensile wire through hole, around post and barbed wire& twist ends. Barbed can slide through if you ever need to stretch it. Di it that way, and when you are out fixing fence, you mostly just drive when you get to a stretch made that way.

And for hedge line post, do not get the tiny ones, they do break. Get likr 2.5 in dia or bigger.

I do have a hedge gate post that needs replaced, that my dad set, back when I was a little ankle biter playing in the dirt. Probbly the late 60's. Semi turned going through gate. We won't talk about the damage to his cattle trailer!

If you don't want to build box corners, then you need to use something huge, like bottom of power poles. Those are hard to find in any qusn5unless you recently had a bad ice storm.
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outlaw2u
Posted 5/1/2016 17:44 (#5276284 - in reply to #5268800)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Northern KS
feelnrite - 4/28/2016 08:57

We have a big place here that treats ties and sells to the railroad. I used to be able to buy seconds that were treated for brace posts. They would weigh about 200 pounds or more and were good posts. Now they wont sell treated posts anymore for putting in the ground because of the EPA. You can buy untreated but I don't do that.



also the reason that 30 year old railroad ties are proably better than a new one. I think "good" creosote posts are a thing of the past thanks in part to the EPA.
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daddycal
Posted 5/10/2016 20:33 (#5293630 - in reply to #5269020)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts


Montana
We use 2 and 7/8 upset pipe that has been tested free of radiation. Instead of welding pipe or rod, we just use half of a 16 foot galvanized wire panel and wire it to the pipe. Then we connect wires to the fence end and the squares in the wire panel hold the wires at the right level.
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SpringBrookFarm
Posted 5/10/2016 21:05 (#5293742 - in reply to #5275549)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts



Paradise KS
Probably dry enough for you guys to use the new cresote posts. Here they will only last about 10 to 20 years.
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SpringBrookFarm
Posted 5/10/2016 21:06 (#5293747 - in reply to #5268365)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts



Paradise KS
Yeah that does sound counter intitive. Wood posts.....burn pastures....
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SpringBrookFarm
Posted 5/10/2016 21:10 (#5293766 - in reply to #5275607)
Subject: RE: Rail road ties or other corner posts



Paradise KS
Here is some new fence i built last year.



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