Posted 9/1/2015 19:38 (#4765073) Subject: Oil on gravel road?
County won't be doing dust oil on a gravel road in front of a house this year. Am I allowed to put a thin layer of used motor oil on it myself? I know 20 years ago that was the norm for everyone to do for dust control and some just globed it on and left puddles in the roads. TIA. Live in an I state in the midwest.
Posted 9/1/2015 21:15 (#4765315 - in reply to #4765073) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
Floyd County, Iowa
In this "I" state, that is strictly illegal. Dust control companies use Lignin (tree sap based) or Chloride. And you have to get a permit first. If you put used motor oil on the road here, you'll be replacing the gravel and paying a fine for contaminating.
edit: And here, the county doesn't foot the bill. We pay for dust control in front of our building sites.
Posted 9/1/2015 21:16 (#4765317 - in reply to #4765073) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
Sandy Hook, MB
Hello IH_always 20 years ago we used to smoke cigarettes, insulate our homes with asbestos, use PCB's in transformers, spray DDT,... Today we use magnesium chloride for road dust control.
Posted 9/1/2015 21:29 (#4765348 - in reply to #4765073) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
NCND
I don't do it but a couple neighbors do. Works great. The state can pour all the used oil on the pave they want, but if we wanna put on a thin layer for dust control its a no no. I call BS.
Posted 9/2/2015 11:04 (#4766099 - in reply to #4765380) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
My guess is that your wife doesn't want to lose the farm, and doesn't want to see you sitting in jail..... well, maybe not so sure about the second part, but........ :)
Posted 9/1/2015 21:45 (#4765390 - in reply to #4765348) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
NE Iowa ( Ossian )
You are altering the road surface an will be liable for any accidents or even dirty cars. I do not like it but many are just looking to have a big law suit. Bill
Posted 9/1/2015 22:07 (#4765438 - in reply to #4765073) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
Dearfield Co.
Vegetable oil has been used for special events around here as well as the oil that is vegetable based they use in some natural gas engines at gas compressor stations . I would rather have the vegetable oil than Mag anyday
Posted 9/2/2015 19:14 (#4766739 - in reply to #4765438) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
+1, our local elevator has used this and soy oil and / or combo of the two.
When they do their lot, it looks just like used oil and asked them about how or what they put down, as I figured it had to be something that was enviro friendly or EPA approved.
To OP, Used oil is a "bad idea" anymore today, and I dont like the reg's anymore than you do, but it only takes one to get you reported, and I am sure you dont need anymore people ridin your backside than you already have...LOL.
Posted 9/2/2015 07:05 (#4765757 - in reply to #4765073) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
waterloo iowa
I have a neighbor that put on tree sap a year ago,now he goes out at dark and throws a gallon of oil wherever there is a dry spot .If you get caught they can make a county road crew come down and clean iy up,,,and you know how fast they work.
Posted 9/2/2015 14:02 (#4766339 - in reply to #4765073) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
North Dakota
A neighbor set up a water tank and fire hose nozzle and uses the Calcium Chloride that they use for dust control. It takes about 22 bags of Calcium Chloride to do 700' give or take. Runs about $400 instead of the $1000 it was to hire someone to do it.
Posted 9/2/2015 20:27 (#4766901 - in reply to #4766751) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
Thanks to all that replied. I do not plan on dumping oil on any road as I currently recycle it. I would like to find some vegetable oil or tree sap oil to put down. Thanks again.
Posted 9/3/2015 08:16 (#4767773 - in reply to #4766901) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
Floyd County, Iowa
I used to have our road sprayed with lignin (tree sap base). It was great until it rained, then washed away. For the last 7 or 8 years, I've used magnesium chloride, and really like it for dust.
Upside is that it will stay much longer. We have it done twice a year, and the guy charges about $430. This is for 2 applications, and we have him do a 400 foot section each time.
Downside is that when we get snow, and it is just below freezing, the mag chlor will keep the snow melted, so I know what it can do to the underside of our vehicles.
Posted 9/2/2015 20:53 (#4766981 - in reply to #4766339) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
mtvan - 9/2/2015 14:02
A neighbor set up a water tank and fire hose nozzle and uses the Calcium Chloride that they use for dust control. It takes about 22 bags of Calcium Chloride to do 700' give or take. Runs about $400 instead of the $1000 it was to hire someone to do it.
I like your do it yourself method.
Some counties or townships put calcium chloride on their gravel roads near residences.
I have a big problem with that. You live on a gravel road, you take care of the dust.
Don't have the rest of the tax payers pay for any of it.
Posted 9/3/2015 21:44 (#4769316 - in reply to #4766981) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
Whiskey, Tango, Foxtrot
I'm fine with that. Just tell the rest of the public not to drive past my house at 70 mph... or at all for that matter. It is a public road, I can't gate it off (tried) so the public can pay for some dust control.
Posted 9/4/2015 05:44 (#4769674 - in reply to #4769400) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
NW Central Ohio
...any more, if you have an accident with something like a semi..and you burst your fuel tanks...your insurance pays for the environmental remediation company that is required for cleanup. They don't work very cheap.
Posted 9/6/2015 19:16 (#4774554 - in reply to #4765073) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
I'm in the middle of a huge wind tower construction project. 'they' are spraying about 1000 feet along farmsteads with a product very similar if not exactly like the pre-treatment for icing roads.
It's a slimy-salty crud, and so far it's working fine, zero dust.
Posted 9/6/2015 19:31 (#4774586 - in reply to #4774554) Subject: RE: Oil on gravel road?
rancherman - 9/6/2015 19:16
I'm in the middle of a huge wind tower construction project. 'they' are spraying about 1000 feet along farmsteads with a product very similar if not exactly like the pre-treatment for icing roads.
It's a slimy-salty crud, and so far it's working fine, zero dust.
You do need to find out what they are using. Your county road dept. will know.
If it is a chloride product, that means salt, and so all of your vehicles and equipment will
soon see the effects.
Just like all the Minnesota vehicles that rust out in 4 years.
Oil on gravel road?
