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IH-Harvester
Posted 11/27/2012 10:22 (#2719359)
Subject: High Mag. Lime


Im looking for some high mag lime in central PA. Ideally I would like to have very high mag levels and no calcium. Anyone know where to find it and an approx cost per ton?
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Austin
Posted 11/27/2012 10:57 (#2719421 - in reply to #2719359)
Subject: RE: High Mag. Lime



Garrett County, MD		You will not find lime with no calcium... Just lime with more Mg than other lime... Where are you located and how much do you need?
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panotiller
Posted 11/27/2012 11:26 (#2719463 - in reply to #2719421)
Subject: RE: High Mag. Lime


Lewisburg, PA		Like Austin said you dont get one with out the other High Mag lime out of Bakers in york like $16.50. Martins Limestone has it $15.30 . Thats Picked up
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Ed Winkle
Posted 11/27/2012 11:50 (#2719515 - in reply to #2719463)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


Martinsville, Ohio		It's only $6.25 per ton here in sw Ohio. High Cal brings almost double.

Ed
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martin
Posted 11/27/2012 11:24 (#2719460 - in reply to #2719359)
Subject: RE: High Mag. Lime


I agree with Austin.  You will not find limestone with no calcium. 

What kind of calcium and magnesium levels are you looking for?

Maybe check out Martin's.  I think I had seen an analysis where they had a 2:1 calcium: magnesium

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IH-Harvester
Posted 11/27/2012 11:26 (#2719467 - in reply to #2719359)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


Located in central pa. Ive found bakers lime. Gonna need a couple hundred acres spread
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panotiller
Posted 11/27/2012 11:30 (#2719475 - in reply to #2719467)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


Lewisburg, PA		Where are you at? If you are interested email me I do some custom spreading of Bakers or Martins Damp Lime.
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Austin
Posted 11/27/2012 15:45 (#2719843 - in reply to #2719467)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime



Garrett County, MD		The thing with lime is the trucking, NOT the price of the lime. That is why I asked location. "Central PA" is a large area... if you cant be more specific I cant help you...

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IH-Harvester
Posted 11/27/2012 11:37 (#2719489 - in reply to #2719359)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


First farm levels are Ca 500-800ppm Mg 24-35ppm, 1.5 ton of lime recommended
Second farm Ca 1100-1700ppm Mg 39-55ppm, 1 ton of lime recommended
Am i gonna get enough out of a 1-1.5 tons of lime to bring these Mg levels up to were they should be?
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iseedit
Posted 11/27/2012 11:46 (#2719507 - in reply to #2719489)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime



central - east central Minnesota -
IH-Harvester - 11/27/2012 10:37First farm levels are Ca 500-800ppm Mg 24-35ppm, 1.5 ton of lime recommendedSecond farm Ca 1100-1700ppm Mg 39-55ppm, 1 ton of lime recommendedAm i gonna get enough out of a 1-1.5 tons of lime to bring these Mg levels up to were they should be?
One consideration . . . If you have larger fields, Grid sampling & VRS can really pay with limeing. I was totally surprised how different the grid sampled spots of the field varied greatly in the amount of lime needed through out the field, and in one field didn't need any, except for a few acres in one spot.For consideration.
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martin
Posted 11/27/2012 12:04 (#2719546 - in reply to #2719489)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


No, probably not.  However, I don't think your calcium levels are all that high either.

Depending on what crop you are growing, and what the rest of your soil test looks like......

Apply Hi-Mag lime as recommended.  And then, maybe consider using a product like Sul-Po-Mag to balance out your Mag needs.  See if your fertilizer dealer has this available.  If not, check with other dealers  :)

 

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NE Ridger
Posted 11/27/2012 13:39 (#2719708 - in reply to #2719489)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


EC Nebraska
IH-Harvester - 11/27/2012 10:37

First farm levels are Ca 500-800ppm Mg 24-35ppm, 1.5 ton of lime recommended
Second farm Ca 1100-1700ppm Mg 39-55ppm, 1 ton of lime recommended
Am i gonna get enough out of a 1-1.5 tons of lime to bring these Mg levels up to were they should be?


I don't think your calcium levels are all that high either. What's your CEC, Ca and Mg base saturation percents, and pH? Those determine more how much lime is needed.
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IH-Harvester
Posted 11/27/2012 11:46 (#2719508 - in reply to #2719359)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


Samples are calling for 20-55lbs of Mg. How much Mg is removed from a 100 bu corn crop?
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martin
Posted 11/27/2012 12:13 (#2719565 - in reply to #2719508)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


2.5% Mg from 1 ton/acre will supply 50 lb Mg/acre.   Right?

I think I would look for a good quality Hi-Mag lime and go for it.

Follow up with a tissue analysis, and use a foliar product in-season, if your plants are still deficient in Mg. 

Sound like a game plan?

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9670guy
Posted 11/27/2012 12:15 (#2719573 - in reply to #2719508)
Subject: Here's a chart I have.


NW IL		Don't know how up to date it is.



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IH-Harvester
Posted 11/27/2012 11:59 (#2719534 - in reply to #2719359)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


Thanks Ed. Hauling would be the killer, unless i can find it close to the PA border at that price.
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JDPlowboy
Posted 11/27/2012 12:10 (#2719563 - in reply to #2719359)
Subject: RE: High Mag. Lime


sw MN		You could apply K mag, if you also need K.

22 percent K

11 percent Mag

Lime is always high in cal.
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Dave75
Posted 11/27/2012 20:33 (#2720351 - in reply to #2719563)
Subject: RE: High Mag. Lime



Rural Valley pa		What is the lime out of Belfonte high mag or cal.
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Ken cen-pa
Posted 11/28/2012 00:02 (#2720819 - in reply to #2720351)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


cental pa along the Susquehanna River		We get hi cal from bellefonte not sure if they have hi mag. Usually get hi mag from bakers
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martin
Posted 11/28/2012 08:25 (#2721128 - in reply to #2720819)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


I found a document on the DCNR website which lists various sources for Dolomitic limestone and calcitic limestone.  The list does not appear to be exhaustive. However, it appears that all the sources for Dolomitic (Hi-Mag) limestone are located in the Adams/ York/ Lancaster area.   New Enterprise is listed as having Hi-Cal limestone.

That makes sense.  You would expect limestone to be geographically located.  While the content analysis will vary some from location to location, you would expect Hi-Mag limestone to kinda run in the same vein; and the same would be true of Hi-Cal limestone.

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JnDrGrn
Posted 11/28/2012 21:39 (#2722374 - in reply to #2719359)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


Watsontown, Pa.		Depending on location to me the bakers is worth the little extra money for ease of spreading. Luke is there as much mag in the ag 18 as the commercial?
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IH-Harvester
Posted 11/30/2012 13:51 (#2725123 - in reply to #2719359)
Subject: Re: High Mag. Lime


How even does the Bakers damp lime spread with a spinner truck?
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