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deereman
Posted 8/21/2011 10:25 (#1922543)
Subject: building a concrete fuel containment?


NE SD		From reading the rules on this it looks like even though I will have 3 tanks inside this containment, that it needs to hold 10% more than the biggest tank. It does not say antything about a barrier in the concrete or anything which surprises me. Since my biggest tank is 2000 I need 2200 gal containment. I am thinking something with 2' high walls so it would be easy to step into. How many Square ft would the base need to be? I am planning on just slightly sloping the base into a drain pipe that would have a plug that I just pull out after it rains.
Thanks
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agboy
Posted 8/21/2011 10:36 (#1922554 - in reply to #1922543)
Subject: RE: building a concrete fuel containment?



Flandreau, SD

   You need more than 2200 gal. 

 

You need 10% over PLUS the volume that the other tanks or any other objects displace inside the containment.  

Would also double check on the plug before putting it in.



Edited by agboy 8/21/2011 10:39
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Chad H
Posted 8/21/2011 10:44 (#1922564 - in reply to #1922554)
Subject: RE: building a concrete fuel containment?


NE SD

Plug or valve IS allowed.

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deereman
Posted 8/21/2011 11:46 (#1922632 - in reply to #1922554)
Subject: RE: building a concrete fuel containment?


NE SD		Yes thanks for pointing that out before we do this. I am hoping my concrete guy who has done a few of these knows the rules better than me. The rules are apparently different for multiple tanks in same containment. Local fuel supplier knows hardly anything on this whole deal.

Edited by deereman 8/21/2011 11:47
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Thud
Posted 8/21/2011 20:09 (#1923327 - in reply to #1922632)
Subject: Re: building a concrete fuel containment?


Near-north Ontario, French River		If your local fuel supplier doesn't understand containment rules, it might be time to find another supplier. How many tanks are you looking at? What size? If you are buying new tanks you might want to look at double walled tanks and an alternative to building a containment system. Of course local regs would apply.
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bwire
Posted 8/21/2011 10:42 (#1922561 - in reply to #1922543)
Subject: RE: building a concrete fuel containment?


Rock County, MN

First with multiple tanks 150% of the primary tank volume is required = 3000 gallons

You'll find this very detailed and useful...and your COOP is a good source of local ordinance requirements
http://www.unidocs.org/documents/un-018.pdf

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mmaddox
Posted 8/21/2011 10:57 (#1922579 - in reply to #1922561)
Subject: Re: building a concrete fuel containment?


Some additional calculations will be needed. I don't think I have every seen 2' walls and don't feel it would be high enough. We build ours 4' with steps over the top. Really doesn't take much more to go higher.
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agboy
Posted 8/21/2011 11:28 (#1922616 - in reply to #1922579)
Subject: Re: building a concrete fuel containment?



Flandreau, SD

Well now you have seen 2 foot walls.  We sell lots of them. 

 

I built this one in Indiana years ago.  It has a drive inside the dike load/unload pad.  Really neat and clean design I think. 





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mmaddox
Posted 8/21/2011 12:46 (#1922706 - in reply to #1922616)
Subject: Re: building a concrete fuel containment?


Does look nice. Takes a big area/number of tanks for the lower walls to meet requirements. Shorter walls would make working around them a lot easier
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wildcat1000
Posted 8/21/2011 18:02 (#1923151 - in reply to #1922543)
Subject: RE: building a concrete fuel containment?


C IL		I'm thinking some kind of building/roof over your containment would be good.
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Armstrong Grove
Posted 8/21/2011 22:35 (#1923680 - in reply to #1923151)
Subject: Re: building a concrete fuel containment?


Northern Iowa		I was at a EPA Spill containment meeting in July at Spencer Iowa , The EPA spokesman said the State fire Marshall has the Rules on covering the Containment Area . I Googled and got the phone numbers for info. I think a building would be good to as we all face 2 problems that are getting worse - Thieves who have nothing to lose , and Government Agencies nosing around
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