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tedbear
Posted 9/4/2025 07:27 (#11353783 - in reply to #11353603)
Subject: Your observations are correct


Near Intersection of I-35 & I-90 Southern Mn.
Having been a Tech and personal user during those early days, I remember both situations.

The first Spinner module was for a single channel only as you describe. This was used with an Insight at that point in time. As mentioned that module would work with an Insight but the module was replaced with the 3 Channel and 5 Channel modules. As newer displays such as the Integra and later InCommands came along they do not support the older single channel modules. This explains why your single channel module has "Insight Only" written on it.

As far as the very early Clutch Control Modules, they didn't support an Implement switch option. I don't believe the module even had that port. I think this was a plain oversight and it was not realized that an implement switch would be very useful. I'm guessing the thought was that auto swath would handle everything.

As a workaround, Ag Leader came out with a modified wiring harness. Essentially it was a harness that went between the Switch box and the Auxiliary Input module. It had a branch that lead to an implement switch. The implement switch was then in series with the Master switch.

This meant that the implement switch would break the path from the Master Switch to the Auxiliary Input Module when the planter was raised. This meant that all Clutches would become active and disengage while the planter was in the raised position. When the planter was lowered that connection was completed again and planting would resume based on other factors.

Later the Clutch Control Module was revised and now includes an Auxiliary port with an implement switch branch. An actual implement switch, equivalent or jumper is needed with these modules. This same approach is used with several other Application Modules as well.

Allis4ever relates an incident that shows why the implement switch is useful. Dad apparently left the Master switch ON at all times with a Rawson driven planter. This was fine for the normal portion of the field since the Clutch Module would have activated the Clutches to stop planting on the normal headlands since they had likely been planted. Auto swath would have noticed this and activated the Clutches appropriately.

However, when Dad drove to an area that had not been planted and should not have been planted, Auto swath did not activate the clutches since it would see no reason to prevent planting. The result was that seed was dispensed on top of the ground and got worked in so some of it grew. Had an implement switch been involved, the implement switch would have caused the system to activate the clutches even though the Master switch was ON. Had Dad flipped the Master switch OFF, the Clutch Module would have prevent the sections from planting.

The decision whether to plant or not is based on a group vote. If any condition, Master OFF, Implement UP, Sections switch OFF, Auto swath active and the section has already been planted should occur the section clutch is activated to stop planting. All of these conditions need to be in a certain state to allow a section to plant.



Edited by tedbear 9/4/2025 07:50
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