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Jim
Posted 6/7/2018 07:24 (#6798879)
Subject: Baler pressure/density settings


Driftless SW Wisconsin

What are the benefits and drawbacks to the baler pressure setting on a JD baler? I like dense bales but is their a cost in belts or other wear? Currently I run with the gage at the upper end of the green but wondering if that is too high.  "5x6" bales set at 68" seem to be expanding a couple inches in diameter after ejected. Would the bales "breathe" better and equalize moisture significantly better at a lower pressure setting?

Where do you more experienced hay people in humid climates run your JD baler pressure setting?



Edited by Jim 6/7/2018 07:29
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DCW-TX
Posted 6/7/2018 07:38 (#6798904 - in reply to #6798879)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


Peg the needle right at the edge of green and red. Usually make 1500 to 3000 rolls a year with no problems. Have been setting them like that since the 567s came out. If the bales are expanding , usually it means not enough net wrap is being used.
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cornncows
Posted 6/7/2018 07:40 (#6798907 - in reply to #6798879)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


Ne Nebraska
IMO you aren’t hurting a thing. They have a safe range for a reason and your within. Biggest thing is making bales oversized imo. Where your setting at 68” not 72” is about perfect imo. Next thing is always keeping stored inside. I feel that is key to keeping repairs to a minimum

Also I like to relieve pressure on belts when not in use.

Edited by cornncows 6/7/2018 07:45
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DCW-TX
Posted 6/7/2018 07:45 (#6798913 - in reply to #6798907)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


Yep. Always blow them off and put them up. Never wash a baler.
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cjd12000
Posted 6/7/2018 07:55 (#6798931 - in reply to #6798879)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


candor ny
You will have more problems with lower pressure. Belts can wander hay wrapping on rolls. Replaced pressure relief on my 457 this spring as every bale was softer then normal and we had belts tearing with less then 2 k on the belts. Hopefully its better this year as bales were hard again.
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ntexcotton
Posted 6/7/2018 08:05 (#6798949 - in reply to #6798879)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


North Central Texas
Always on the edge of the red. Moisture alone will not cause spoilage, you have to allow air to make the reaction happen. Loose bales get looser quickly while tight bales can last several years stored outside with 40 inch rainfall. The baler isn't going to cost you keeping it that way.
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Blusteryknollfarm
Posted 6/7/2018 08:46 (#6799036 - in reply to #6798879)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


North Central Illinois
I run a Vermeer, and I run on the top side of the green. My dealer always says to run the bale size a few inches under the max to reduce load on belts and bearings.

Biggest thing I have found in this humid climate, is let the bales sit on end in the shed for a week or two before stacking. Even if it doesn't reduce dustiness, it at least allows me to monitor for hot bales. I don't stack until they have a chance to sit for a week or two. I have found a charcoal black bale twice in a stack that "wasn't put up too wet." If you leave them out to sweat, you can find that one bale pretty easy with an IR thermometer.
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Supa Dexta
Posted 6/7/2018 09:06 (#6799067 - in reply to #6798931)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings



NS Canada
I had a thread on here last year showing how to adjust the pressure setting on those. They are adjustable despite internet myth/JD part sales.
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clicker
Posted 6/7/2018 10:28 (#6799194 - in reply to #6798879)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


Southern IA
baling wet hay for wrapping is harder on the standard baler belts and bearings than anything else, all that extra weight pushes the design limits.
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sbeat99
Posted 6/7/2018 11:51 (#6799271 - in reply to #6798879)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


Newton Iowa
I run mine at 3 o’clock. And adjust the height to what the costumer can handle. To hard some guys have trouble spearing them. I know 1guy runs max. On both. Gets along. Wants less bales around,the pile.
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Jim
Posted 6/7/2018 12:01 (#6799282 - in reply to #6798879)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


Driftless SW Wisconsin

Thanks everyone for the valuable advice!

Edge of the green and more wraps.  Baler is always in the shed and blown off, not washed.

I wonder if Dave in Indiana can keep himself from washing his baler???   ;-)

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cjd12000
Posted 6/7/2018 12:04 (#6799285 - in reply to #6799067)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


candor ny
I read it and searched in history and decided by the time I got a gauge and line and fooled around the $260 or so was easier.
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feelnrite
Posted 6/7/2018 21:47 (#6800093 - in reply to #6799285)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


northwest tennessee

Do you have a link to that thread. My bales are not as tight as they should be and just rebuilt the cylinders and might have helped some but didn't really move the needle.

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garvo
Posted 6/8/2018 06:40 (#6800405 - in reply to #6799282)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


western iowa,by Denison
we run at 12o clock on the gauge Jim for about 500 bales when new -then 2o clock position after that-at about 8000 bales bearings get replaced in rollers -when we use to run really high pressure the bearings only made it to 4,000 bales
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Jim
Posted 6/8/2018 08:21 (#6800572 - in reply to #6800405)
Subject: RE: Baler pressure/density settings


Driftless SW Wisconsin

garvo - 6/8/2018 06:40 we run at 12o clock on the gauge Jim for about 500 bales when new -then 2o clock position after that-at about 8000 bales bearings get replaced in rollers -when we use to run really high pressure the bearings only made it to 4,000 bales

That is one of my concerns. Thank you. 2-2:30 o'clock is about where I'm running it now, close to the top of the green range.



Edited by Jim 6/8/2018 08:22
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