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North Carolina | Looking at purchasing a tractor to be used in corn, soybean, and flu-cured tobacco production. The tractor will be my main tractor and will be used for tillage, planting, transplanting, spraying, etc.
I will be planting with a JD 8-row, 30 inch planter and transplanting with a 3pt pickup 4-row mechanical transplanter. Tillage with a 16 ft disk and a 4 row tobacco cultivator. Some hay bailing and cutting may be used with it as well.
My budget is set at $60k.
I think a 175 HP tractor is plenty of power for the implements I will be handling but I may be wrong. I would also consider some basic precision-ag technology such as GPS and auto-guidance so I could operate at night to increase the amount of hours I can farm during the week. Would love to plan ahead a little on the precision-ag stuff because we plan to implement that little by little in the years to come.
Right now I am leaning towards a JD 7810 because of its price, size, and positive feedback I have heard from farmers who own one. Do you guys have any advice/experience/feedback on those tractors?
Considering all the information and stipulations presented what other tractors in that size and price range would you guys consider and maybe a few reasons why. Any advice or recommendations on the precision-ag technology would be helpful as well. Also any general advice on purchasing equipment and planning for the future and long term success would be greatly appreciated. If you want to email and talk one-on-one my email can be found in my profile information.
Like always, any advice/comments/constructive criticism are greatly appreciated!!
Edited by young_farmer 11/20/2017 23:38
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Nw Oregon | We love our 7810. All tillage and flail mowing here. Has been getting about 5-6 hundred hours a year the last few years at 9000 hours we have put rear axle bearings in twice rebuilt front axle twice ( bearings only) and re bushed three point rock shaft. just last week it went in for a transmission unfortantley. But we get so much work out of it and the guys like it enough that we don't mind spending the money. 20,000 repair stinks but doesn't get you very far towards a new tractor we runs john Deere atu in it sf2 great for tillage never planted with it but would guess you would want better. A well cared for 7810 will take care of ya |
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SW Ontario | You will not go wrong with a good 7810.
Don't get one with the 19sp power shift...not as good as the 20 speed power quad.
Look for one with the 'auto quad' because they had a similar 8.1L set up like the 8000's with the electronic governor and had field cruise and other benefits that only came on those 7810s.
They are cheap and easy to 'chip' too because they are electronic.
Mine put out 210pto hp and that is light duty for that motor.
Absolute bullet proof. |
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SW Ontario | Don't like hearing about that only 9000hrs and it needed a tranny.
PS or power quad?
Thanks. |
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Sunnyside, WA | We had a 7810 MFWD and 19 speed. Traded for an 8300 MFWD and never looked back. I like all of our JD 8000, 8010, and 8020 better than our 7810. An 8000 will turn sharper on 30" rows than a 7810 |
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WCIL | We have a 2000 2wd 7810 with 4500 hrs. Pull 16 row vac corn planter, batwing mower, 22' disk (9" sp), plus some auger work. It is a big small tractor. Just this year started to nickel dime us with steering column tilt cylinder, door open cylinder, battery cable, and coolant tank. Cab needs new upholstery too. Prior to this, nothing to fix, just all hit at once. It is 17 yrs old after all. Great tractor mechanically engine and trans wise. Plan to keep ours a long time yet. May very well be the next 4440! |
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| Had a 2003 7810 powershift. It was our first 7000 series and will be the last too. Sold it and got a 8120. Not sure why everyone on agtalk loves them but I hated it.
Small cab , turns terrible, rides rough , setting detents on hydraulics sucks, ac always was terrible.
Wouldn't think of spending that kind of $ on a 7000 series when a 8000 could be bought. |
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EC North Dakota | +1. Get an 8000 series. |
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| Front wheel or 2 wheel drive. I think a 7510 30 would work ivy or 20_24 sp.
Edited by cho 11/21/2017 05:51
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SW Ohio | Have 2 7000 series here. 7700 and 7710. Both are 16spd PQT. 7710 started life as 2wd but when we upgraded to 12/24 kinze we bought an axle and drop box from a salvage yard and made it MFWD. Dad bought it new in 97. Now its just shy of 3500 hrs and does a great job. 7700 came to us used because we found a couple years after changing the 7710 to MFWD, we really needed a 2wd row crop tractor. I have since made both of them Greenstar ready and use 2600 screens 3000 recievers and ATU 200 units on both of them. I find it works great for what I ask of them. If I was buying one today though, I would look really hard at an 8120. They can be found with 540 PTO and the MFWD will turn shorter than a 7000 series. About the same money going in as well. 8120 should be Greenstar ready from the factory. |
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NW Iowa. / SW Arizona | fastdeere - 11/21/2017 00:40
Had a 2003 7810 powershift. It was our first 7000 series and will be the last too. Sold it and got a 8120. Not sure why everyone on agtalk loves them but I hated it.
Small cab , turns terrible, rides rough , setting detents on hydraulics sucks, ac always was terrible.
Wouldn't think of spending that kind of $ on a 7000 series when a 8000 could be bought.
I agree the 8000 series tractor in my eye is better exactly for the reasons you mentioned. When I was looking to upgrade my planter tractor I was looking for the 7800 series but had two dealers talk me out of it. They both said I’d be happier with the 8000 series, ended up getting a 8120 and have zero regrets going that route.
I do own a 7130 that is used as my loader and sprayer tractor, even though it is a nice tractor I still prefer driving my 8000 series tractors.
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WCIL | Agree that the 8000s are a different animal, but the 7810 stands on its own merit for a smaller frame tractor. We have a 8260R and love it. Different class. Do the 8000s have 540 pto option? |
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ncia | Ive had a 7810 for quite a few years. I bought it to replace a 4440. definitely uses less fuel than the 4440. Used to plant with it . cultivated a lot, now it is my sprayer tractor, pull a 120 shredder, and snowblower. It is also nice to have a 540 pto option. Mine is the power quad. It is very easy to use and reliable. Possibly the quietest tractor Ive ever been around. It is also for sale but you are far away from iowa. Looking to upgrade to a 7820 or 7830..
John deere definitely hit a home run with all 8000 series and All the replies about 8000s have some merit (I have one of those, too) , but they are not similar tractor. |
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Illinois | I have an 8100 for sale in the classifieds that would fit the bill. |
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SW MO | I would look hard at a Genesis series New Holland |
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NC IA | Tell me about the 7810! |
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ncia | 2wd, 6200 hours, second owner, excellent tires and duals. 515-538-0295 |
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CIL | Love our 7810 2wd. Have had no issues with it in 7k hours. Ours is a quad. She's done everything from planting, spraying and ripping. Like others said, it's a different frame from a 8000 series. We run an outback S3 with a TC box and hydraulic block for basic WAAS guidance. Does a decent job and currently runs as our planter tractor but we still use markers. Should be a great tractor for what you describe and allow room to grow. |
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Nc Ks. | I've got a 7710 2wd. Like everything about it except the ride. Rides rough. Around here I've noticed you can buy a 7820 for close to the same money as a 7810. But you also don't see 7810's for sale very often either. |
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David Loberg Northeast Nebraska | We have 2 7810s, a 1998 and a 2001. We also have had several 8000 series. For what you are wanting to do with it, go with an 8000 series. The one 7810 we used for spraying and planting. We had a 90' 3pt boom and sidequests for spraying, and we pulled a 16/31 Kinze with it. The problem was getting the power to the ground, they are a light tractor. It's good for some applications, but not draft work. We had to have the saddle tanks over half full to be able to pull hills a lot of times. We had a 674 grain cart on it, and that was about all it wanted. We tried our 880 once, and it pushed it down the hill, that was the last of that. They also lack the cooling system for heavy work. If you work them extremely hard under heavy load, they will get hot on you. The 98 has the quad range, and the 01 has the E range, the extra speed is nice when hauling on the road. We've since gone to 8Rs and 9Rs for field work, and the 7810s are used for feedwagon and manure spreading duties. That's where they shine, in livestock use. They will take a beating and keep on ticking. They are small, nimble, and have plenty of power/traction for those applications. The 1998 has 14200ish hrs and hasn't been touched, we put a transmission in the 2001 at 9k, but the first 4000 hours it was on a loader cleaning yards with a shuttle shift til we bought a payloader (no idea why we didn't do that sooner) and it took a beating. For the work you described, go 8000 series. If the budget alllows and can find a machine that would be in your price range, the 8X30 series was the best for us so far, we had an 8430 that was our best tractor we've had. 8320 was good, but didn't have the integrated autosteer valve, and had drivetrain issues, but that may have just been ours I realize. Can't go wrong with a clean taken care of 8000-8010 series either though.
Edited by dalobe01 11/21/2017 09:40
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ohio | Saw a nice 8120 sell in ohio Saturday. Estate auction 900 hours,4x4 with duals and front weights. Looked like a new tractor.It brought 95000. I thought that was a decent buy. |
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EC Kansas | Young farmer, check out the 8100 or 8000 series
The 7810 is a good tractor. But the 8000 has its advantages.
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NC IA | Thanks, but looking for front assist. |
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Sunnyside, WA | BFarm - 11/21/2017 04:27
Agree that the 8000s are a different animal, but the 7810 stands on its own merit for a smaller frame tractor. We have a 8260R and love it. Different class. Do the 8000s have 540 pto option?
I have there of my 8000s with 540 pto. 8110, 8420, 8270R. I have swapped these 3 ptos from other tractor's since the fit them all. 8220, 8300, 8410, 8260R, etc |
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Nebraska | I wont give up my 7810 ever! The torque of that 8.1 is awesome in that little tractor. Yes its not an 8000 in the field but for what I do with it I just love it. Livestock and hay are it's major job duties, the corn and bean farming is just a part time job for it really so it works great for right now. I would love to come up with a 8310 or something like that to do more of the farming with someday. |
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Nw Indiana | 7810s are definitely nice tractors especially with the 19 speed powershift. However for 60,000 you could probably get into an 8100 or 8200 tractor. They are a lot more heavier built tractor and will turn a lot sharper. It's all what you would like to have but I remember before I bought my 8400 I was looking at a 7810 and my dad talked me into going with a 8000 series and I'm so glad I did. |
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N.C. Iowa | Something to keep in mind if you go to a 30 series is that they went to the 6.8L engine instead of the 8.1. My cousin says his 7830 isn't as strong as his 7810 was. The 20's are still 8.1's. |
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