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White Cross, NC | We want to start hauling our own grain this year and also haul for others. We bought a truck back in December now to get the trailer we have been pricing new Timpte and Wilson both spec the same, 40' 96" wide 66" sides Ag Hopper. Air Ride, 8 aluminum wheels, manual tarp, Stainless covers front and rear with both ladders. The Wilson was $1,200 cheaper than Timpte. So looking to go that route unless somebody might have some good reasons not to go with a Wilson.
And also is this size trailer that we need to buy if I want to haul for other people. With a 40ft I can get into fields easier and still will be 51ft total to bridge 80,000. |
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Liberty, MO | I prefer the Tempte because of the outside panels are replaceable in shorter pieces, also I would get 72 or 78 inch sides. With 66 inch sides and light test weight soybeans you would have to fill it up to the tarp bows to get a payload on.
Edit:::I have ag hoppers on my trailer
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Marianna Arkansas | I like Wilson better but timpte is fine too. Lots and lots of both running every day.
I'd do the electric tarp though.
The size your talking about is fine for corn and beans. Some of the fluffy products won't get a load though. Mine is a 43' though. Rest is the same size. I hate 102 trailers.
We do run a lot of 40' 96"x66" steel trailers here and it's no trouble getting into the 100's with beans or corn. |
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mn | I have one of each, a year apart. A '13 Timpte and a '14 Wilson, spected as identical as I could. The only reason I bought the Timpte was cuz they could get it a month earlier.
I prefer the Wilson. Have had 3 in the last 14 years and have never had trouble with the strap traps, never have replaced any roller bearings under the traps, I hate the galvanized bows in the Timpte, Wilson's are aluminum and don't rust and rot the tarp out...... thats just a few things. ( Want to buy a good used Timpte)?? Lol.... I have aluminum sub frames and Wilson, I also have aluminum king pin cross member.
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North Central Iowa | If you chose a new Timpte they have an option to totally enclose the fifth wheel and the area above the rear tires, no more dirt, gravel, snow, to carry around in that area that's a pain to clean. |
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NE SD | Wilson has the enclosed front also. |
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| Thats a pretty standard trailer. Why not buy a 2-3 year old one and save some money? |
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White Cross, NC | warranty with new tires and brakes and what ive been seeing it takes a trailer with a little age for the price to decline
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Nw Iowa | You can order the wilsons with split side panels also. We have ordered ours that way. I think they are also slightly stronger with the panel overlap |
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| Have both hoppers i would say either is fine depending on your liking. Both have there plus and minuses. I would put electric tarps on you can be headed down road and roll tarp makes for time saving when hauling. For use sometimes that extra mins saved not gettig out to roll a tarp is what it takes to get that extra load. Also it is a safety factor that guys are not fighting rolling thwm in bad weather conditions. Now i would say buy new get warranty over a good used one. Also if buying used look cery hard at sub frames on timptee they will crack and break and rust from inside of tubes out even after only 9 years. On a wilson some trailers had bedliner or under coating put on all metal exposed thats a bad deal saw one other day that where it dodnt stick to metal the bedliner let mositure underneath it between liner and metal and started rusting away. We have 40 96 wide 66 inch sides ag hoppers never have a problem getting enough on sometimes in beans have to put 5 piles to get 80-81000
Edited by Cmhay84 2/3/2017 21:43
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| I've got a 42' Timpte, going to a 40 would be nice in a way, but I need it for bridging law. I've got 66" sides and would NEVER, EVER go to a 72" or 78". I can't fill it completely full now and be legal, so why would anyone go higher except in maybe sunflowers? Going higher is just more weight, which means hauling less, plus more wind resistance and possible harder to dump the cart, depending on the auger on the cart. Ag hoppers are a plus, I don't have them. |
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mn | I have AG hoppers on both trailers. With AG hoppers, you will want to go 72" sides..... my opinion. AG hoppers are nice for unloading at the wet bin with a swing hopper auger. Timpte is 40x72x96 and Wilson is 41x72x96. |
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NENE | I have Wilson Commanders with the sloped ends. I feel they are easier and safer to climb on. 72 inch sides Ag hoppers. Would order the same but everybody has their own opinion
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| Get a 43x66 Wilson without ag hoppers . 2 piles in front and one in the back with corn and beans and you have room for meal and ddgs if hauling that custom. That's what our Wilson is and easier to load properly. Our timpte is 40x66 with ag hoppers and it's got to be almost full from front to back to hit 80k. I like not getting out 6 times and loading it to the gills to hit 80k. |
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east central ND | I have the 66" sides with agg hoppers. I like the 66" and agg hoppers so the combine drivers and cart guys cannot get the trailer too overloaded. From the bin to town it would be nice to have a bit taller side so I would not have to move the truck soo much when loading. Around here most farm trailers are 66", most commercial haulers are 72" or more.
One thing I would like is the double wide cat walk on the front of the trailer. I like watching the grain fill the hopper, and the single catwalk is a bit narrow to stand on with heavy winter boots. |
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Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska | Agree. I have the slanted ends on my Timpte. Easier to climb up and down the ladder. Tarp is 4 foot shorter. Less shelf area. And the big plus is the trailer is 600 lbs. lighter than a straight walled trailer for the same price. This is on a 50' tri axle with 72" sides.
72" sides are a little tougher to see over to fill and yes, you can easily over fill them. The 66" sides are easier to see from the tractor and you can pretty much be close to legal when filled end to end.
Definitely get the electric tarp AND traps. Love the traps. Drivers LOVE them. Elevator help LOVE them. And, of course get the Ag Hoppers.
If your going to do much hauling the more you can haul per trip, the better. Just make your intersections a little wider.
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NE SD | Sheep Herder - 2/3/2017 21:42 I've got a 42' Timpte, going to a 40 would be nice in a way, but I need it for bridging law. I've got 66" sides and would NEVER, EVER go to a 72" or 78". I can't fill it completely full now and be legal, so why would anyone go higher except in maybe sunflowers? Going higher is just more weight, which means hauling less, plus more wind resistance and possible harder to dump the cart, depending on the auger on the cart. Ag hoppers are a plus, I don't have them.
Higher sides costs very little in weight penalty. Less than 200lbs to go to a 78" trailer. Then you don't have to have your grain cart operator sit there and windrow grain, make 3 piles, spill over other side when loading on road, etc. One pile on each end and you're done. I have to have a 78" trailer with 7 axles to get enough on the front, but after having 42x66, 42x72 over the years and dumping in some friends' 42x78, I would never order a trailer I didn't plan on rolling frequently with shorter than 78" sides. |
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NE SD | Why do you need to climb on them? Standing 30' away accomplishes the same thing. I would be surprised if it's 600 lbs. Less than 200 is probably more realistic.
Edited by Chad H 2/3/2017 22:59
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SCIA | If your state weight laws are such that with a tridem you can haul 88-92K, get a 50-53 footer with rear lifting axle. We go in and out of fields all the time with them. No real difference in turning radius over a 40-43 footer with the rear lifted. And we can haul 1150 corn legally with no problems loading, three piles in the front and two in the rear. If you want to make any money, it is bushels that pay. Most truckers are like farmers., bid the price right down to break even. Hauling the extra bushels, if your state laws allow, is an advantage, as cost per bushel, on the extra payload, is really low. |
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Galena IL | Own one of each, I like the Wilson best because it has electric tarp. Will Not buy one without remote tarp again... Dennis |
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Brookston, IN | We have one of each and both work fine. I would consider an electric tarp, I wish both of ours had that. We don't tarp the manual trailer during harvest unless it is really windy and some places we deliver too don't have a great way/ place to tarp after dumping.
We have several fields were the road is higher than he field and with our cart 72" or taller sides would mean we are either driving to the low spots and filling everything there or having to put the trucks in the field. For us going to 102" wide is a better option that 72" tall. |
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Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska | Very seldom do climb on them but when you do, it is nicer. Mainly bought it withe slanted sides for the savings in weight and the unique (to this area) looks.
And yes, book says 600 lbs. less weight. |
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SW Iowa | Have a neighbor who bought one of those tri axel super hopper Timptes, and he couldn't wait to trade out of it.. He called it a DOT magnet. You cannot run on the interstates, |
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McCanna, ND | We run a 34' all fall loaded level full and gross out at about 74k. Nice trailer for hauling out of the field especially if your running straight trucks too. The cart man can fill everything level full then. Hauling to town we run a 50x78x96 Timpte and wouldn't want anything less then that. Legal for 61,000, could be another few thousand but the truck has to short of wheelbase. |
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ND | Our trailers have 78" sides and I love them. Most of the time it's one good pile in front, one good pile in back and you are on the road. I've used 66" side trailers and you are always jumping in and out of the truck watching and moving.
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Almond Wisconsin | I have a 42ft 96x72 ag hopper Timpte and consider it ideal. I would get electric tarp as well. I put it on later and like it. If you only haul legal loads 66x40 would be fine, but we also haul field to bin and load it up. |
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NCOhio | We have 2 Timpte 40'x66" trailers with ag hoppers. There is no way to legally hall 56lb testweight product on these trailers. The trailer has to be completely full end to end. As I go on the scales I'm close to 12,000lbs on the front axle, 44, 000lbs on the tractor tandems and 80,000 total which puts 36,000lbs on the trailer tandems which is 2,000 lbs over. I know this from my one and only overweight ticket. In Ohio farmers are allowed a 3% over 80,000 if hauling from field or farm, but it has to be evenly spread on each axle. I would say for hire trucking to get the 42'x72" trailer and get air ride with the gauges to try to stay legal. The rear axles will always be over if filled all the way. |
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South Eastern ,ILL | We traded our 34' for a new 40' Timpte in December.
They have changed the angle of the nut where the crank goes,
making it easier to open while standing near it unloading.
We have 2 Timptes and 1 Wilson, both are very good.
+ 1 on the electric tarp our new one has it and it's very nice. |
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NE SD | Lower sides also allow easier filling from the ditch with cart. Very wet harvests and last fall was one of them that we could at times not get a truck into the field so we loaded it from the ditch. The cart auger barely makes it over side but it does work if careful. Higher sides are a real negative. |
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NE SD | They are all over in the Dakotas, MN, NE, etc. We have been running them for what will be 10 years this fall. In no way are they DOT magnets. In SD you can buy a permit to run on interstate. Wouldn't be surprised if ND and NE are the same.
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S.W. Minn. | If you unload into an auger swing hopper, you have to have a ag hopper |
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NE SD | I'm surprised it is that much. It must all be in the top beam, because you aren't really reducing any vertical components by a significant amount. |
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Marianna Arkansas | Reason I like 66" side is the cart driver is going to fill it up. Doesn't matter what wagon it is. It's going to be full and everyone of them here will do it.
I've seen over 80,000lbs of corn on a wagon before. And it went to Memphis.
Wasn't my truck but I have seen it done. |
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