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spike
Posted 6/24/2011 21:29 (#1834083)
Subject: best way to seed tillage radishies


can you seed radishes with a jd 750 drill???????? Spike
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4ethanol
Posted 6/24/2011 21:32 (#1834088 - in reply to #1834083)
Subject: Re: best way to seed tillage radishies


Hoxie, KS, Northwest Kansas
I wouldn't know why not. I am going to fly some on some standing corn this fall. Steve groff uses a seeder to blow them ontop of the ground in standin corn and it grows
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sgroff
Posted 6/24/2011 22:22 (#1834177 - in reply to #1834083)
Subject: RE: best way to seed tillage radishies



SE PA
You can plant Tillage Radish with a 750 drill- matter of fact most drills. If you have a small seed box set to the alfalfa setting, maybe a bit lower. If you plant the suggested seeding rate of 8lbs per acre, use the 7lb setting for alfalfa. It' close to "3" when you set it. It is possible to use the large seed box but it'll be almost closed and since not every seed flute is exactly set the same you may have some rows planting very little and some rows planting a bit more. Some plant a half to one bushel of oats with Tillage Radish in order to make it easier to seed.
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PaKettle
Posted 6/24/2011 22:43 (#1834240 - in reply to #1834083)
Subject: RE: best way to seed tillage radishies



Lenawee Co Michigan
About what is the size of them radish seeds? Are they like regular radish seeds where you need tweezers to pick one up?
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sgroff
Posted 6/24/2011 23:00 (#1834272 - in reply to #1834240)
Subject: RE: best way to seed tillage radishies



SE PA
seed size averages 25-30,000 seeds per pound. Similar to very small milo or small sugar beet seeds if you are familiar with them. Larger than alfalfa.
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hinfarm
Posted 6/25/2011 00:10 (#1834426 - in reply to #1834088)
Subject: Re: best way to seed tillage radishies



Amherst WI
Will they root deep then though? I used a John Deere FBB drill and no-tilled them into wheat stubble a few years back. They just pushed out of the ground and didn't root very deep, at least what grew it was very dry after I planted them. The remaidner grew the next spring and did the same thing.
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PatrickM
Posted 6/25/2011 04:56 (#1834543 - in reply to #1834272)
Subject: RE: best way to seed tillage radishies



What would be a good starting point setting on a 750 drill? I have a 1/2 speed reduction gear set. I don't have a small seed box.
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sgroff
Posted 6/25/2011 07:11 (#1834580 - in reply to #1834543)
Subject: RE: best way to seed tillage radishies



SE PA
I have a half speed as well on my JD 1560. The setting for the large grain box is normally 3 or 4. The flutes are almost closed and the seed is coming out the little notched opening. The half speed is not much different since it's still such a low rate- try setting 5. Every drill can be slightly different with these low settings. The best thing is to put in a know quantity and plant a few rounds to see if you are close. Once you find the sweet spot you're ready to go.
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idj
Posted 6/25/2011 07:25 (#1834586 - in reply to #1834083)
Subject: Re: best way to seed tillage radishies


east central
Anybody plant them with a corn planter? Thinking about planting them after wheat into the red clover cover crop down the same rows as we will plant corn next spring. Will they plant with the soy disc in a vaccum planter?
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sgroff
Posted 6/25/2011 07:29 (#1834592 - in reply to #1834426)
Subject: Re: best way to seed tillage radishies



SE PA
Depth of rooting isn't related to planting depth. however alot of factors can determine how they grow. They will push up out of the ground to varying degress as they store nutrients in the tuber- nitrogen silos. the tuber narrows down to a taproot at about 250 psi. The taproot will "drill" down through the hardpan to open up the soil and collect nutrients storing them in the tuber and leaves. These will be availible to the next crop as the Tillage Radish breaks down quickly.
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sgroff
Posted 6/25/2011 07:36 (#1834598 - in reply to #1834586)
Subject: Re: best way to seed tillage radishies



SE PA
Yes, becoming more popular as you can cut the seeding rate in half with precision planting. use a small sugar beet disc. What planter do you have? I have part numbers for most planters.
i think you have a great idea if the red clover isn't too thick that it hinders the radish to get a start. They will collect the N the red clover produces and give it to your corn next year. Set to plant 4" in the row. on 30" rows that'd be about 2 lbs per acre.
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idj
Posted 6/25/2011 17:46 (#1835215 - in reply to #1834598)
Subject: Re: best way to seed tillage radishies


east central
Thanks Steve I guess we will have to buy new discs not cheap for our 24 row 1250 case. We are hoping our row cleaners will allow the radish to establish in the red clover.
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sgroff
Posted 6/25/2011 17:56 (#1835228 - in reply to #1835215)
Subject: Re: best way to seed tillage radishies



SE PA
The row cleaners should help. Here is the part number for the seed disk on the Case/IH 1200 series planters– 236027A2
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Circle Farmer
Posted 6/25/2011 19:20 (#1835316 - in reply to #1835228)
Subject: Re: best way to seed tillage radishies



What is the number for JD vacuum? Thanks!
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sgroff
Posted 6/25/2011 20:37 (#1835391 - in reply to #1835316)
Subject: Re: best way to seed tillage radishies



SE PA
John Deere Pro or MaxEmerge Vacuum 1700 series– A51712
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Circle Farmer
Posted 6/25/2011 21:23 (#1835434 - in reply to #1835391)
Subject: Re: best way to seed tillage radishies



Thanks.
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Ed Winkle
Posted 7/8/2011 09:41 (#1853878 - in reply to #1834426)
Subject: Seeding method is key to any crop


Martinsville, Ohio

I don't see any difference in rooting depth whether you plant them or broadcast them.  The key is planting date, any time in the summer, Sept 1 is about it to maximize benefit here, too many plant a little too late and will get benefit but not what you would get earlier.

The corn planter does as good a job as anything, really scatters that little seed out sparsely so benefit is maximized to cost.

15 inch rows are better than 30 to me but they both work.  Drill works great for seed to soil contact but you use more seed.

The main idea is just plant them!  If you haven't tried, them, try them!

Ed Winkle

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