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dirtpour2
Posted 1/8/2024 16:09 (#10563636)
Subject: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


eastern Kansas		I am fairly aware of the differnces in these two compounds but was trying to compare some premixed herbicides with one or the other in them and my question is would a pound of AI of acetochlor be the eqivialent to a pound of s-metolachlor?
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Ricky1234
Posted 1/8/2024 17:12 (#10563713 - in reply to #10563636)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


mn		I would say 1 lb of s-metolochlor would be "hotter" than a lb of acetochlor. A lb of r moch would be more equal to a lb of acetochor so more like .67 lb of S-moch would equal to a lb of acetochlor
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acwd45
Posted 1/8/2024 17:57 (#10563766 - in reply to #10563713)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


NC SD		Here is a chart I have…



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bighert
Posted 1/8/2024 17:57 (#10563768 - in reply to #10563713)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor



Greenwood MO		I have used several s metolachlor products Dual, Parallel, Moccasin they are all 82 % active. Acetachlor products such as warrant and Harness are 33% active. Much less concentrated
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sparrell
Posted 1/8/2024 18:09 (#10563783 - in reply to #10563766)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor



acwd45 - 1/8/2024 17:57

Here is a chart I have…


Who made that chart?

Edit to add that it makes zidua/anthem maxx appear very expensive vs dual 2 magnum if those conversions are accurate.

Are the conversions cited biased or accurate?

Edited by sparrell 1/8/2024 18:14
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SteigerMan310
Posted 1/8/2024 19:04 (#10563908 - in reply to #10563783)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor



That’s because it is more expensive
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acwd45
Posted 1/8/2024 19:04 (#10563909 - in reply to #10563783)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


NC SD		I assume they are accurate. I have no way of knowing though.
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IAEFC
Posted 1/8/2024 23:37 (#10564387 - in reply to #10563766)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


No way 1.67 pt is even close to 5 floz Zidua SC. Not a chance on Earth!
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Moose333
Posted 1/9/2024 08:02 (#10564615 - in reply to #10564387)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


NW Wisconsin		X2 Yeah thats not a good chart lol 1.5 pints of Smeta is 2.5 oz of zidua. I am still looking for a chart that is close to this day lol. Thats not even close lol.
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sparrell
Posted 1/9/2024 08:07 (#10564620 - in reply to #10564615)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor



Moose333 - 1/9/2024 08:02

X2 Yeah thats not a good chart lol 1.5 pints of Smeta is 2.5 oz of zidua. I am still looking for a chart that is close to this day lol. Thats not even close lol.


Is this based on your own anecdotal data or have you seen some published data on the subject?
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Moose333
Posted 1/9/2024 09:28 (#10564733 - in reply to #10564620)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


NW Wisconsin		Valent

I believe Rodrigo from UW also has some published data too on group 15's and efficacy. And Zidua wins everytime. It was done this summer so IDK if you can find it on the interweb yet. But ive seen it in person.

Edited by Moose333 1/9/2024 09:30
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mohr-power
Posted 1/9/2024 10:47 (#10564862 - in reply to #10563766)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


West-Central IL		Marking
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BronsonA2150
Posted 1/9/2024 11:34 (#10564919 - in reply to #10563636)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


SC IA		Are you asking because of a crop safety concern or just effectiveness?
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JHSMN
Posted 1/9/2024 15:28 (#10565269 - in reply to #10564733)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


West Central MN		Zidua wins when you have rain. If you don't get consistent rain to activate it, it is a waste of money. Outlook or Warrant are better options in drier conditions. Illinois guys always want Zidua... the further west you go the less consistent it is.
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dirtpour2
Posted 1/9/2024 20:29 (#10565755 - in reply to #10564919)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


eastern Kansas		effectiveness per dollar spent
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JellyJugz
Posted 1/9/2024 21:16 (#10565836 - in reply to #10565269)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor


NC South Dakota		And if u go far enough west zidua works better because it's the best at sitting on the soil surface waiting for rain.
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ksufearless
Posted 1/11/2024 19:53 (#10568774 - in reply to #10565836)
Subject: RE: acetoachlor vs s-metolachlor



NW KS
JellyJugz - 1/9/2024 21:16

And if u go far enough west zidua works better because it's the best at sitting on the soil surface waiting for rain.


zidua was a flop here, because we dont get timely rains to keep active. and when we do get a rain its 1+ inches RIGHT NOW. encapsulated acetachlor has been a big improvement for us.
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