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| I’m putting a new sprayer tender trailer together. I’ve seen the new demco trailers and they are really neat, but I can’t throw that much at one.
I’ve got a 48’ drop deck trailer and 2 matching 3,000 gallon black tanks. If it matters, we will be filling a 4730 and STS12 throughout the year from spring burn down to corn/bean fungicide. Never do any fall spraying.
I think I want to set one tank at the front of the trailer and one over the tandems on the back. I plan on putting 4 chemical totes on the neck of the trailer and running my hoses and meters back to the inductor in the middle of the trailer. I think I can make a panel with switches to turn on the individual pumps.
I see the Chembine and Handler inductors and I think that might be money well spent? Never had anything but just plain inductors and got along ok.
I’ll probably stay with 2” fittings, and I’d really like to buy a hose reel.
This is probably like building a new shed, there will always be things we wish we would’ve done differently. Just looking for anyone’s ideas that might be more functional or advice on how to build one better. Let’s see those trailers! |
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Central ND | Unless you are dead set on a reel we took ours off and built booms, will never have a reel again |
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| I like the idea of a boom, and I was told a reel takes up a lot of space. That may be a good option. |
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Central ND | That's why we switched, so much simpler and cleaner |
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Northeast Indiana | Which inductor isn't all that important other than sizing it big enough and having a Chem blade. Find some way to efficiently pull from the chemical totes.
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North central ND | We have a hose reel on our enclosed spray trailer, we really like and would recommend it, the 2 inch reel isn’t that big compared to our 3, we have it mounted out of the way under the trailer. Don’t know how long you can get on the booms but our reel is 50 ft and a lot of times we use it all cause we load through the ditches a lot. Don’t know which brand it is but it rolls out and up super easy. Would definitely put it on our next trailer.
Not a huge fan of the handlers or chembine, we went back to normal cones with rinse and jug rinse and got new pumps with meters, just as fast for us anyway. |
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Central ND | Our booms are 12-16', built the 16' first and shortened the next one because we just didn't need the length. I would say 75% of our in crop spraying is loaded off the road but we have front fill, we also have 3' so the reels took up alot of space |
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Roseglen, North Dakota | How is there room on the front deck for a tank and chemical totes? |
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NE SD | got any pictures of your boom setup? |
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Central ND | I don't on my phone but I can get some next week |
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Cambridge, southwestern Nebraska | Your on the right track putting the tanks on the front and back. Since you have looked at a Demco I would copy as much of that trailer as you can. They look the best to me. |
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| Chem blade is the biggest waste of money I have ever spent. A good inductor with a good jug rinse is much better. |
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Mercer County, Ohio on the Indiana line | This setup is pretty slick, but if a guy is looking to go a little more budgeted I’ve got some ideas.
Our tanks are in the center of the trailer with enough room in the middle for a pair of 2” pumps. The inlet and outlet of each pump has a T valve that can switch flow from into and out of the tender trailer quickly and allows for easy pump priming. We have two Napa power pro pumps and the cost of both 2” pumps is less than one good 3” Honda and if one goes down we aren’t dead in the water so we use them longer than we ever trusted when we had a single pump. Another benefit is the added ability to pump 2 products to planter if a guy does infurrow and 2x2 products. At the sprayer I just put a 3” to a pair of 2” adapter so I can use both hoses. A guy could run a single 3” and put the 2” to 3” adapter on the trailer if they’ll never need the dual product capability.
On our bulk chems we put a tee into the hose going to the sprayer and tee’d the chem in there instead of having to run our liberty through any venturis. It saved a lot of foaming issues we fought in the past. As long as the sprayer can pull a little pressure on the incoming hose the chem pumps from the co-op can push the chem into that tee without idling the 2” pump any. If not the 2” pump needs idled so you don’t over pressure the chem pumps.
We put all of our jugged chemicals in through the inductor on the rogator and use the factory jug rinse there. Saved us from buying an extra inductor and Venturi system. There is room behind the tanks for 2 skids worth of jugs.
We throw our bulk chem totes on the step deck with room for 6 totes.
When filling the trailer with water we add our AMS so there is adequate time to melt the AMS and fully blend prior to any injection of Chemicals. Have to watch dicamba applications because unless the trailer tanks are cone bottoms you have to rinse and rinse and rinse to get the ams out of them to prevent dicamba volatility. (One of our co-ops had this issue and smoked a pile of neighboring beans till their trailer was rinsed out with enough loads of straight water)
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Dayton, IA | BHR Farm, do you have a waterline to clean out your chemical manifold? I pull everything out of totes with a venturi similar to you and when a tote is empty I pull the line off the tote and spray rinse water down the hose to clean it out as best as possible. I would like to add a water line at the end to just open a valve and clean out the chemical when switching chemical but haven't taken time to figure out if I can pull water through the pump and water through the chemical side venturi at the same time? It looks like you have a clean water line so thought you may have some advice?
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Elsmore, Kansas | Here’s a pic of the boom we built for our trailer.
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Hitchcock SD | Check out C&R supply multi product cone. Simple, draws right from the totes. I never did like the look of the chembine system but I never used one either. |
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Northeast Indiana | I think there are a lot of guys that would disagree... With the blade you can set a jug down onto the blade, dump out all of the chemical, and then rinse out the jug in about 5 seconds. I'm not sure if the blade in the chembine is the chem blade brand, it punches a rectangle hole in the bottom of the jug and I think the chem blade cuts a cross into the jug. |
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Northeast Indiana | I pull out of totes through the dura products direct injection system that pumps into the water line after the pump and inductor. It doesn't show it in the pictures, but a later plumbed up a 1 inch manifold off of the rinse system on my inductor. The 1" manifold is setup up with valves to be able to rinse out the line coming from the tote to the electric pump for that tote. When I want to switch chemicals I then just open the rinse line and run the electric pump to clean out that whole line. Before I got the direct injection system I ran totes through a 2" manifold system and had plumbed in a rinse line from the pressure side of the pump to the end of the manifold which allowed you to rinse out whichever tote line you wanted to switch over. |
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| You have to slam the jug to get it to cut, and if your using a product that very thick it does not rinse the bottom of jug very well. |
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Central ND | Man, I wouldn't give up our knife/rinse for anything! After using ours for 1 season I bought another for the other trailer, it is much faster and much cleaner rinse than anything we have ever used before |
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| I would give you mine. |
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North central ND | Pio12 - 2/11/2023 11:36
You have to slam the jug to get it to cut, and if your using a product that very thick it does not rinse the bottom of jug very well.
Yeah, we didn’t like it either, we have ones now where you take the top off and rinse. Maybe ten seconds slower but a lot cleaner and better rinse, IMO |
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| This is what we did. (2) 3000 gallon tanks. Made platforms to hold 4 cage tanks and recessed 2 inductor cones on a scale. Everything is gravity fed out of cage tanks and weighed. No pumps to deal with. The 3rd cone has a chemblade. Went away from a hose reel as well. They are too slow.
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Central Nebraska | I'm in the process of building something similar to the c&r system. The idea looks promising, hopefully it works as good as they claim |
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NE SD | Agree 100%. We put on on one trailer just to see if we’d like it. Never did put it on other trailer. Some types of chemicals it will not rinse out.
And it’s very messy with jugs leaking everywhere. |
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West Central MN | Here is one we put together last year. Used it all last season and really liked it
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Northville, SD | IMO if you want the best take a look at the Pit Stop from Atkins Kansas. It is the best I have ever used. I've plumbed many systems and the Pit Stop flat out wins. |
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Central ND | You wanna buy ours? |
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Northville, SD | Don't like it? Actually, I have all I need. If you want to sell it I may have some interest in our area. |
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Central ND | I'm too impatient, our scales are so much faster lol |
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Northville, SD | Remember I'm from South Dakota and you are from North Dakota--there is a difference. LOL |
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North central ND | That looks really nice, simple and easy but still fast. Similar to ours with the mix cones and hose reel but ours is an enclosed trailer. Only thing to make that better IMO would be to have a curtain side, hate having everything outside but like the options of a flat bed.
Is the gravity flow faster than a pump, seems like it would be
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