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Arnold50
Posted 8/14/2017 20:40 (#6186894)
Subject: Antique Tractor Guys


So I have a nice running mostly restored 54' Oliver 77 Diesel. There are a few things I'd like to spruce up on it, but don't know if it's possible? A few years back it was converted from a 6 volt to 12 volt system and the right side panel can't be put on anymore. Does anyone know if they have made a mini alternator or have come up with a design that will allow me to keep the 12 volt system but use a different alternator that is smaller so that I can make the tractor look original?



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olwhda
Posted 8/14/2017 20:49 (#6186927 - in reply to #6186894)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


Liberty, MO
On my Fleetline 66 we used a small delco with an external voltage regulator and it still bulges the side out a little. That was 20 years ago I'm sure there are smaller alternators now.
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Butch...Mn
Posted 8/14/2017 20:57 (#6186961 - in reply to #6186894)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys



West Central Minnesota
In order to keep the original look, I have had a couple of my MM tractor generators switched to 12 volt. All you have to do is switch the field coils and swap voltage regulators. I usually hook charger to battery at beginning of year and have never had a starting issue. These tractors do have magnetos instead of point ignition systems.
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Dave9110
Posted 8/14/2017 21:03 (#6186990 - in reply to #6186961)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys



north-central Indiana west of Fulton
We have had some generators switched from 6 to 12volt as well.
http://www.classicgenerator.com/
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dragon71
Posted 8/14/2017 21:03 (#6186996 - in reply to #6186961)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


Farming in NW Iowa
I've put small Hitachi alternators on H Farmalls because the 10SI Delcos were too big. May be worth a try.

https://www.google.com/search?q=hitachi+alternator+on+h+farmall&rlz=...
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retento
Posted 8/14/2017 21:27 (#6187080 - in reply to #6186996)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


Eastern North Carolina
Alternator for Deere 650 and 750 tractor as well as alot of others...... https://www.dbelectrical.com/products/alternator-permanent-magnet-fo...



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Ben2013
Posted 8/14/2017 21:53 (#6187148 - in reply to #6187080)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


Western, Pa
Straight 77 never had air cleaner up through the hood, never had external muffler, and your seat is broke, looks good other than that though
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hf213
Posted 8/14/2017 22:22 (#6187237 - in reply to #6186894)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


Check into a Denso alternator, say like for a older 6x4 Deere Diesel Gator..
These are ridiculous in price from Deere, but search online, should be able to get for under $ 100 on Amazon. There is a company I think in Tennessee that sells them, as I just put one on my moms gator this spring, and have had very good results.

You will still need an external regulator though, and online should find one under $ 50.00

My email is good if you want me to dig that invoice up for a contact.

Also check with Jegs and Summit racing, they have smaller alternators for drag and circle track cars.

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wildcat1000
Posted 8/14/2017 22:26 (#6187247 - in reply to #6186990)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


C IL
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JohnW
Posted 8/15/2017 00:56 (#6187408 - in reply to #6186894)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


NW Washington
If you want to spend big bucks you can buy an alternator that looks like a generator. Here is one and google will pull up more. http://www.gener-nator.com/

Maybe Korves Oliver has a suggestion. http://www.korvesoliver.com/
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Ron..NE ILL..10/48
Posted 8/15/2017 05:45 (#6187472 - in reply to #6187408)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys



Chebanse, IL.....

JohnW

I don't see any prices on their generator/alternator website, but that seems like a good product to retain original look. Do you have a price on something from them?

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joe
Posted 8/15/2017 06:44 (#6187555 - in reply to #6186894)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys



Had a 300 Farmall 6 volt generator changed over to 12 volt. Also changed the regulator. Looks stock and works great. Was done at LaFontaine Generator Exchange, Inc. in La Fontaine, IN.
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berggrenfarms
Posted 8/15/2017 08:59 (#6187782 - in reply to #6187148)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


Nebraska, The land of corn and cattle

Ben2013 - 8/14/2017 21:53 Straight 77 never had air cleaner up through the hood, never had external muffler, and your seat is broke, looks good other than that though


Very few havent been modified for both at some point in its life, in fact when I see one thats original it takes me a second to figure out whats wrong with it. Also, you couldve just said "nice tractor" 


To the OP, I know there is a way to have an alternator and be able to put the side tins back on, Ive seen it done. When we finally get around to restoring our 88 thats what were going to do. Might have to do a little internet searching or check over on Yesterdays tractors    

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Josh in Pa
Posted 8/15/2017 09:42 (#6187874 - in reply to #6186894)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


s.e. Pa
Steiner tractor parts sells compact alternators. I have a similar one on a super 88, but I got it at a local shop and it was about 1/2 price. I had to choose a fan belt by trial and error, but I was able to get the alternator up nice and tight to the engine. The supers have different panels, but I think the fleetline panels would clear the way I have it setup.
Josh
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Arnold50
Posted 8/15/2017 10:16 (#6187949 - in reply to #6186894)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


Thanks for some of the helpful feedback guys!
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Gerald J.
Posted 8/15/2017 11:14 (#6188056 - in reply to #6186894)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys



http://www.bb-customcircuits.com/ can supply a slim alternator and brackets.

Gerald J.
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Nebraska Sandhiller
Posted 8/15/2017 11:24 (#6188081 - in reply to #6187237)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


NNW Nebraska
The alternator on my 1999 toyota camry is a lot smaller in diameter than that delco.
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npalen
Posted 8/15/2017 13:46 (#6188371 - in reply to #6187080)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


North Central Kansas

http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Kubota-Alternator-Dynamo-B9200D-B9200E-B9200HST-D-B9200HST-E-B7410DT-/192248743131?hash=item2cc2eb04db:g:9i8AAOSwEH9Zad~N

Similar to the Deere that Retento posted.

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mike,ohio
Posted 8/15/2017 22:23 (#6189455 - in reply to #6186894)
Subject: RE: Antique Tractor Guys


ohio
If you have the original generator it can be converted to 12 volt. Or,
you can install a 12 volt generator. John deere made 12 volt generators up to 1969. A 1010 OR 2010 generator would work fine and look original.
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