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| Ok. I can understand your concern. I don’t think any extremist from either side should be in power either. I do view it differently though, based on what I’ve seen and heard.
I’ve heard lots of people say that their party has changed values and left them behind. For the most part if it is a left person saying that they claim that the party has moved so far left and sometimes even into territory that didn’t even exist among the previous extreme left. Basically they feel often that what is currently considered the right now holds the values that they do.
If it is a person from the right that feels the party left them behind in general they seem to feel that the right has now taken on the values of the former left and now what’s considered the extreme right, the Trump administration, aligns best with their own values.
I’m not sure how accurate that is but it is a general trend I’ve been noticing.
Personally I do believe that the media does misrepresent the values of the current administration a lot and that has created a false narrative of Trump and his followers being extreme right.
I’ll just go through your own claims as examples. I’m not doing it to attack you, I’m just putting a different perspective on the same situations. This isn’t about one of us being correct. It’s just food for thought.
There was a time not too long ago when fervent nationalism was a good thing. There was nothing wrong with being proud of your country and wanting to maintain and defend the culture behind it. Part of that was characterized by knowing many people from the rest of the world wanted to move to the U.S. to experience it and live that life. There was the expectation that those that went to the U.S. would adapt and embrace the U.S. culture and way of life, understandably so based on the known desire to become a U.S. citizen.
Nationalism also included the need to secure the borders to ensure people don’t enter illegally. There was a basic premise that newcomers were welcome to become citizens if they were properly vetted and came here because they wanted to live the U.S. lifestyle.
If a person ignores all of the politics and propaganda and thinks only in terms of what I wrote up above I think most would agree that nationalism isn’t a bad thing and that Trump and his followers follow that type of nationalism. As you mentioned it is the undocumented, which can be defined as those engaging in illegal activity, immigrants as the type of immigrants that are the issue. It is also immigrants that enter the U.S. with the intention of changing the U.S. culture to the culture they just left.
Having said that the argument can definitely be made that the legal process could and should be made much easier but that is a different topic.
My personal belief is that the concept that Trump is extreme right is mostly due to propaganda. I believe that because from what I understand the above beliefs I mentioned were basically embraced by the former left. That metric alone suggests that Trumps stance is actually even left of the former right. While it might be correct to say he is far right under the current belief system it was the entire belief system that has moved to the left and under the historical terminology Trumps stance might actually be considered to be on the left.
This is just my understanding of the situation. I might be wrong.
Edited by havin’funfarming 4/7/2026 09:28
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