Andrew McGuire Washington State
easymoney
Posted 3/15/2026 20:41 (#11586091 - in reply to #11586053)
Subject: RE: we will agree to disagree


ecmn
farmerbk - 3/15/2026 20:03

Agriculture may be going through a tough patch right now, but has historically improved.
Productivity has increased exponentially since the Green Revolution
Debt has grown, assets have grown faster
Productivity and efficiency increases has meant it takes fewer producers to do the work
I grant that some may see that as a negative, it may have had a negative impact on some communities.
Technology increases have added to productivity increases.

Overall and over time, incomes have increased, fewer farms are subsistence, incomes and net worths have risen.
It is not a perfect system, and undoubtedly some have found a different way and are prospering.
Fantastic.

I go back to where I started.... what is replicable and scalable; and has the data to support it.
Best wishes to you and your operation and the path you have chosen
bk


Your last sentence says your not going to answer questions.

What specific data do you want replicated is a safe word you can hide behind, same with scaleable and productive until you define them. Can you define them?

None of them are measures of success.
There are farms on less than 10 acre making a living off that land. Since they don't make high yields and are small acre are they not successful? Their kids can and want to come back to the farm. How many of us can say that?

Human existence for thousands of years using the system by definition is replicated. How is that not proof?
It also shows we farmed our existence without subsidy. But long term regen / low input farms in fin bin and pak also show that

every component is proven agronomy, and a system built from that works. Can you show specifically what isn't agronomically proven? Can you provide data showing it doesn't work?

What happens in industrial system if you can't get N? What if ethanol mandates go away? Crop insurance disappear tomorrow? Please answer them questions.

If income is up, why is farm level debt, off farm income, government payments all at a high? Why is working capital weak?










Edited by easymoney 3/15/2026 20:43
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